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Elena Kagan’s dissent trashes Supreme Court as “black-robed rulers overriding citizens’ choices”

Posted by $ nickursis 6 years, 10 months ago to Government
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I am not sure I can ever understand a Liberal mini mind, she wants to make people pay for something they don't want or need or disagree with (yea, I know, it is the normal Liberal method) and she defends it as a 1st Amendment issue? I can't see that at all, freedom of speech would seem to include the ability to NOT pay for something you don't want, especially when it is a power hungry union who will take your money and give it to the very people they don't want to give it to. Now, banning all political contributions from ALL unions, might make this workable, but her premise is so far out there, it illustrates why you cannot have these people on SCOTUS, as they just rubber stamp any Liberal policy as good, and any restriction on government as bad. Good grief...


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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Trump's success is making the left totally nuts. All the way up to a Supreme Court Justice. Each pronouncement such as getting rid of ICE gets increasingly crazier and dumber until the term Dumbocrats becomes a reality.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's a slo-mo train wreck where, IMHO, for individuals the derailment began with property taxes. This is where the Revolution was compromised and free citizens were converted back into "commoners" serving royalty again. Income taxes accelerated the crash.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I can go with that, that would seem to be the idea behind Independents. The Party power is what draws people in, hoping they can use that leverage to get what they want, for themselves and for us. Too bad "us" usually do not want what "they" do.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Celibate to this rule: "to execute the law as related to the Constitution with no regards to politics" . That would seem to meet your criteria. But fundamentally Constitutionalists, since that is what they are using as a guidepost. That is why Gorsuch is so good, he never hid the fact he was a person there to follow the laws and written and reflected by the Constitution, and when they conflicted, he took the Constitution and said so. Maybe Trump can find a clone....
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oh, don't go to that borough in New York where the Socialist Democrat (or whatever they call her) won their primary, she is adamant the only way to be "fair" is to guarantee a job for everyone. Uncle Joe and Lenin did the same thing too, and look how well that turned out.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You make my point "groups of people" vs "individuals". The groups, act as one and leverage large resources and can throw thousands at "theri guy" making him "thiers", the individual (subject to limits) cannot make anyone "theirs". Which means the politician then has an incentive to appeal to as many people as they can to get the most donations. Now, its screw the people in favor of a few large donors. Hence, corruption, and it has spread everywhere.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oh yes, and it is hard to figure out when the train left the rails, even Manifest Destiny was a lot of manipulation and smoke, to benefit specific groups. The battles Jefferson fought with Madison over the 2 power houses of the AG industry and the growing industrial segment was all manipulation back and forth.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Corporations are nothing more than groups of people...ergo they are people. While I would not be adverse to your proposal to only allow individuals to donate....it would require a change to the constitution.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think its fine as long as we build the wall AROUND california, or they secede from the USA. We also have to cut all welfare ties with them, as they will suck the rest of us dry
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I dont think ANYONE should be guaranteed a job, let alone a powerful one, for life (no matter what). Its just a bad idea
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Our political system has been bought off over the years. Its not the land of the free anymore
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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's always for politics, even for those who are (supposedly) non-partisan. I think the best thing in the long run is to eliminate parties altogether. Everyone is their own party.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Celibacy?
    A little extreme, wouldn't you say upon further consideration.The problem is that whoever is chosen will pass any test. They are knowledgeable,and smart. Plus there's no telling what they'll do once they get in. Kennedy is a perfect example. Just gotta hope they are Constitutionalists.
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  • Posted by jim_rusnak 6 years, 10 months ago
    It is Justices like Kagan and Sotomayer who try to legislate from the bench. Some how they must be removed to be replaced by Justices who apply the Constitution's provisions to the cases heard. We must drain the swamp in DC if our nation is to survive. Let us pray for devine intervention.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    True, true. They have been stifling the states since 1865 with money. It is always money, and that is the issue that goes downhill all the way to county levels.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Fixed by: The Judiciary Act of 1869 (16 Stat. 44), also called the Circuit Judges Act of 1869, is a United States statute that stipulated that the makeup of the United States Supreme Court would consist of the Chief Justice and eight associate justices, any six of whom would constitute a quorum.[1][2][3] The Act was the last major piece of legislation to alter the size of the Supreme Court; since its passage, the Court's legally provided size has remained at nine, without interruption.
    Though Roosevelt threatened to increase the number to get what he wanted through, by altering the law, and since he had huge leverage in numbers, he could have and then "packed the court". Whether that was a bluff or not, it worked. The real problem is they need something like an oath of celibacy when they are appointed "to execute the law as related to the Constitution with no regards to politics" or some such. Then they can be removed if they violate it such as this bag of guts.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The fixed number is 9. If it were an even number there would be endless ties and no decisions. If more, how many? Nine is the perfect number.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Interesting thought. There are 50 states tho, so st least there is a chance for competition. Federal rule kills off and chance of that potential competition
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually it does work in their convoued thinking, as this was the same group that gave corporations the right to free speech as "citizens" and all the donations they can throw to buy politicians as "speech". So, if you do not agree with where your union is throwing your union money at, and it has been declared free speech and protected, then you have an abridgment of your rights.Better answer: Ban all donations except from individuals.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly, just like "Everyone knows" , I haven't met Everyone but he/she must be a genius, as they know everything. Just ask everyone. Those terms immediately invalidate all that follows.
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I lean more to bat sh@t crazy myself, but her diatribes and emotional meltdown crap just illustrates she was not there as a SCOTUS judge, but as a Liberal enforcer, making her removal something that should be considered now.
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