Those Who Take Government Money Should Not Vote

Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 6 months ago to Philosophy
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Elected officials, appointed officials, employees of agencies and departments, soldiers, police, teachers, people on welfare...

You might think that if people on welfare could not vote, the Democrat party would be hurt (and it would) but the Republican Party would suffer more. People on welfare, as we usually think of it, as aid to families with children, already tend not to vote. The habitual turn-out at the polls comes from old people, Republicans on social security.

For myself, serving in the Texas Military Department, I decided not to vote in state elections.
(See my blog post here: https://necessaryfacts.blogspot.com/2... )

What about people who work for Lockheed-Martin, Boeing, ArmaLite, or Wornick?

Where do you draw the line? By what standard do you decide?


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  • Posted by jimslag 6 years, 6 months ago
    I served in the Navy for 21 years. I voted before I went in and that was when Carter was elected. I did NOT vote while I was in because of military duties but also, I felt like the quote from Patton. I was either for my C-I-C or against. So while I was in the military, I was apolitical. Now when I got out is different, I was raised in a Democratic family, so by that definition, I was a Democrat. By the time I got out, I was a Conservative. I saw the corruption of both parties, heck, politicians in general are corrupt. Very few are not, look at how many Senators and Representatives go into office in debt or average income but come out of office as multimillionaires. All this on a government salary of $174,000. I know many who voted while in the military but to me it was a non issue.
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  • Posted by JuliBMe 6 years, 6 months ago
    Social Security is a forced tax, supposedly for retirement. Recipients paid for this system and are not getting value for this tax due to the incompetence of government to manage and TRULY INVEST money not their own. They should not be included in this vote restriction idea to my mind.

    I do agree that Welfare recipients and non-essential (and EXTRA-Constitutional) government employees should not be allowed to vote for raises for themselves.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 6 years, 6 months ago
    With things as they are currently, my vote means nothing. I have been outvoted by millions of people receiving benefits and being paid with government fiat in every election. I think I am owed about 20 elections where all of the bureaucrats, and government contractor employees, and people who receive benefits without paying it in first are not allowed to vote.
    People on social security should be able to vote until they have received in benefits all the money they were forced to pay into the socialist system. Then they should have the option to either keep receiving benefits or to be able to vote. I also think that the social security system should be ended now and taxes stopped for those no longer in the system. Everyone over 50 can stay in at current levels of taxes and benefits. Only those over 60 will still get a COLA to benefits. Everyone under 51 is out. We, the people, have to eat the future excess cost (over taxes paid in) of those who stay in. Medicare should be privatized with no guarantees to current recipients.

    Government employees and employees of contractors and lobbyists should not be allowed to vote until 5 years after they are no longer pigging out at the government trough. Medicare recipients should be given the same option: vote or get benefits, not both.
    I don't care what party gets hurt. The 2 major parties both reek of wallowing in the public trough and violating their oaths to the constitution.
    I'd also put other restrictions on voting, requiring understanding of the original constitution and bill of rights with emphasis on government having no power to do anything unless it is specifically written overtly in the constitution. The "commerce clause" should be dead. The "necessary and proper" clause should be dead. Anything done with those in mind are invalid and must be overtly allowed only by constitutional amendment.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 6 years, 6 months ago
    I'd be happy to draw the line at Welfare, no voting in elections following a period when Welfare of any kind was offered. This is quite simply "money for nothing".

    While I see the logic on Federal Employees, theoretically they are providing a service for what they do. Certainly the military employees are.

    A simple standard of services or products in a competitive environment Is where the standard should start.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 6 months ago
    People working for the government or welfare recipients should NOT vote. There is an obvious conflict of interest which cannot be refuted.
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  • Posted by GaryL 6 years, 6 months ago
    Most native born Americans could not pass a citizenship test. I have often felt there should be a test one must pass in order to attain the right to vote. Just think about how stupid those who elected and reelected the likes of Maxine Waters, Corey Booker, Dick Dumass and a bunch of others really are.
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  • Posted by eckert16 6 years, 6 months ago
    Who knows, maybe somewhere in the vast regulations of the Federal Register there is buried something that actually says persons receiving a check from the federal go are ineligible to vote in federal elections. .
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  • Posted by $ rainman0720 6 years, 6 months ago
    Well, according to the Wicket Witch of the West, if I get a tax refund, I'm taking money from the government, since she and her ilk think that everything I earn belongs to the government.
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  • Posted by BCRinFremont 6 years, 6 months ago
    When people, who have no useable moral compass and no loyalty except to self, are given the opportunity to vote for access to other people’s pockets....
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  • Posted by $ 6 years, 6 months ago
    Secretary of Defense James Mattis said:
    "You know, we're all built on our formative experiences," Mattis said. "When I was 18, I joined the Marine Corps, and in the U.S. military, we are proudly apolitical. By that, I mean that in our duties, we were brought up to obey the elected commander in chief, whoever that is. And we've seen, over those -- since I was in the military longer than some of you have been alive, I have seen Republicans and Democrats come and go."
    "(Mattis Hit Back at Trump's Claim" - https://www.foxnews.com/politics/matt... )
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  • Posted by Lucky 6 years, 6 months ago
    I have seen somewhere the figure of 42% (from memory) as being the US population proportion dependent on government money. Clearly, the more socialism, the less true democracy in that voters must withdraw, or vote for/against their employer.

    It is a good sounding concept on the surface. Very hard (impossible?) to define well enough for a workable rule.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 6 years, 6 months ago
    I have always thought: Those that do not produce nor create value, those that are a drain upon the system, should not vote.
    But as you point out, that could include many in government, those with special interests...maybe we should re-enact the 3/5ths clause on the outlying categories...

    I am laughing but, first, I think, we need to vanquish the false idea that we are a demonocracy...that's Not going to go over very well...
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  • Posted by mshupe 6 years, 6 months ago
    I thought about this today in the sense the federal employees should not vote for federal office. But we live in the Age of Complexity wherein government has intentionally complicated life and positioned themselves as our overseers because us poor dumb slobs can't handle the complexity.
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