Interesting. Thanks.

"You tell me which of these you need"
If you have a job or grant for one, you really need it. It's worthwhile to lobby to keep the tragedy of a sudden loss of it from happen. It's not worthwhile for everyone else to lobby for their penny back.

Two weeks ago I gave the Miraflores visitor's center $64 for my family to see the locks. But I didn't get to send less with the 1040-ES that was due Jan 15.

I'm one of those people who would actually be for sending them money if they were helping people in need and helping those people fleeing El Salvador-- not as alms, but because we pay one way or another; and I want everyone to be free.

It's worthwhile to lobby for a penny from every household in the country. It's not worthwhile for people to lobby for it back.

I don't for a moment believe any narrative with President Trump standing up to this. He supported increased spending and borrowing. And his deplorables didn't send in big quarterly estimates. They're paying nothing but Social Security payroll taxes and kvetching about the places that pay the bills, the irony apparently completely lost on them.

Yes I adopted that moniker because just by virtue of being born as a white male I am somehow evil. It's almost like Original Sin! Nothing I can do can change it so I may as well embrace it. My wife and overhearing me dictate this suggest that I should try identifying as an African-American maybe that would work. I mean it works for men who want to go in the ladies room and peek at the girls. I guess identifying as an African American is a great idea but I'm thinking it wouldn't work, old evil white guys like me just never get a pass.

If you have ever seen the original Buford Pusser, Walking Tall movie you will see my. Idea in action. Buford Pusser was a sheriff in a rural Tennessee county that was run by moonshiners in the 60s and early 70s . He had a judge who was leaking information about his search warrants to Moonshiners, so old Buford checked with the law books and found out that he was in charge of deciding where the office space was for the judge. So he had the judges desk and Furnishings all moved to a basement men's room in the courthouse. Well the judge wasn't going for that and made a big fuss about it but it didn't do him any good I think he eventually retired. This is supposedly an actual true story.

Indeed ... I smile at the notion of implementing your ideas. Someone, somewhere, must determine which personnel and positions are essential.

In other news, I finally just figured out your moniker.
Turning off the heat . . . well, you must be a special kind of evil.
Cheers!

No immediate effects from the shutdown. I am planning a trek through Death Valley California with some friends in late April. Even were the shutdown to continue, the impact would be minimal: a few of the trails will be closed (there are dozens of trails) ... all the commercial establishments remain open (per our reservations and dining options). We will haul out our own trash. Impact is minimal. I would like to see the shutdown continue for a few months. We will see that much of the Fed Govt personnel are barnacles.

Vehicular traffic seems lighter......I like that.

Be nice now. We probably really need 6,000 people working at DHHS and 30,000 at the IRS! Now you guys behave yourselves. But actually since you asked? No impact at all.

Just close those departments permanently and save a bit of taxpayer money

Not much. Even though I have been on Social Security, I have still been able to get it. But then, I get it the third Wednesday of the month; but I think the shutdown occurred before that time last month.--Of course, what I want is a job, but that was also true before.

Me an old dino hardly thinks about it. As long as my pension and SS payments keep being electronically wired into my checking account I'm happy.
Right now I'm far more concerned about a health issue I'm beating and wondering what I owe after my health insurance takes care of business. Glad I don't have that Obamanation Care.
The only thing that would upset me is the Tangerine Tornado backing down from building that wall, steel slat fence or whatever. Pretty sure that he will never do.
Last night I heard Hannity say that in about 90 days the public will be viewing efforts to Impeach Trump for looking like it's run by idiots.
Hope he is right.
Hope so. Me dino likes to laugh at all the pathetic donkey brains in the Jackass Party.

Great ideas, though.

I suspect that the people who are most negativity affected are the Federal worker bees....not congressmen. I guarantee the members of congress aren't missing any paychecks. Their exercise room, underground railroad, the house post office, exclusive dining rooms and other perks are all working just fine. All of that should shut down. They should have to send interns to MacDonald's just to get coffee!!! They ought to turn the frigging heat off in the capitol building.....but no such luck, that will never happen.

Not sure they could handle the job of flipping burgers.

Instead of a real job, perhaps they should solve the border wall funding/shut down problem that they created. Doing nothing always has unintended consequences......

Shut down the Senate and the House for a year or two!

MY IMPACT = NONE! Only wish that I was physically able to assist in cleanup, etc...
The "WALL", "FENCE", "CONCRETE BARRIER" must be built. I support what POTUS is doing!!

Yes, as is George Washington's brewery, part of the Mount Vernon estate and recently restored! In working order, and licensed to produce real, authentic whiskey of the period!

Zero impact. I like the idea the government is shut down, for a while, we have less of it. We all know the wage slaves will be paid in full, just a vacation along the way, but I would like to see a lot of them gone, permanently.

So far, absolutely zero impact. Don't care about any delayed IRS refunds, can't fire before mid March anyway, but am interested in the comments that taxpayers won't be able to file at all without updated forms or efile forms, however,

I was just thinking, what if they never end the shutdown? Can these goobers just go find a job? Then it occurred they might hit the job numbers a little as a couple million unskilled laborers hit the job pool.....Too bad.

I would say it is time to just have an overhaul and eliminate everything that does not directly support security or law enforcement. See what happens and then add only with a 2/3 vote in both houses.

There's a shutdown? Nah, it's all Fake News, everything I need works, and that is a very tiny amount. Now the War can Continue!

Ha, I get to go to Lake Mead here in Nevada without being taxed at the gate for something taxpayers already payed for (Hoover Dam). I say shut down the Park Service budget, at least for Lake Mead, and people can bring out their own trash like they did before.

As an alternate destination to John Adams' Farm in
Quincy, you might enjoy Sam Adams' Brewery in Boston. It's privately owned, ;)
https://www.citybrewtours.com/boston/...

"The IRS is not issuing refunds, updating tax forms or answering phone help lines during the shutdown, according to its shutdown plans.

But anyone hoping that an IRS shutdown means getting a breather on their taxes will be disappointed. The agency's website says taxpayers "should file and pay their taxes as normal."

As a CPA who was involved in creating new filing forms based on IRS instructions as laws changed, I can tell you that if the IRS hasen't updated their forms, it's LITERALLY impossible to file, either on paper or electronically. You simply cannot file 2018 taxes on a 2017 form or efile (especially with all the changes that have occurred in 2018). So I am in no hurry to get them back to work but I also have no interest in being penalized for filing "late" because they didn't get the forms updated. Depending on how late they are, I feel for my previous co-workers in the tax industry (not government employees). They are charged with getting it right and ON TIME, no matter the hours needed to catch up with government incompetence. They will be working long and hard.

I still remember the year I worked both Xmas and Thanksgiving days.