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  • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 8 months ago
    Virtually all of the land we occupy is conquered land. The early history of the human race is a story of migrations that pushed out the prior inhabitants (whose own migration had pushed out their predecessors) for a tract of land. The Australian abos and the Pacific islanders are the only actual indigenous people I can think of (even the Basques don't qualify, though they are pretty early).

    The American Indians are the descendants of the Clovis people, who displaced earlier populations in the usual fashion: fought, acquired territory, interbred with survivors. Just like we did with the Neanderthal in Europe. My mitochondrial haplotype is U, which is from one of the earliest migrations to Europe. There are three thereafter before you even hit the Neolithic period...and then y'all can track the historical migrations from that point on in history books.

    Are we attempting to find and give the pre-Clovis remnant populations victim payments? Are the Blackfeet trying to recompense the people they virtually exterminated when the took over their land?

    We are wallowing in guilt because we have been taught that we are uniquely evil in this respect. We are not.

    Jan
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  • Posted by scojohnson 10 years, 8 months ago
    I guess I'm a little unclear on this... do they think Native Americans are still out hunting bison on horseback with a bow & arrow?

    Most of the tribes I know are just vacuuming up cash from the floor of their casinos and go to the grocery store, or maybe they own 100 acre ranches with a few plots of farmland or something for themselves.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Climate" is what you get over a period of decades... "Weather" is what you get this year. Unfortunately, too many people (and scientists) I think confuse the two.

    As we saw this year, little things can have big effects... like a shift in the pattern of the jet stream moving north a bit and pulling Canadian arctic air into the midwest freezes out the midwestern states.

    In California, we've had a high pressure zone (typically hotter air) parked over California for going on a couple of years that forces the moisture we usually get from the Pacific to route north & south, and Washington State is drowning in floods & mudslides (the rain we usually get in the winter and our soil absorbs it better).

    Is that stuff climate change? Probably not. But if they become a normal "pattern", the actual temperature change doesn't matter as much as how it shifts where moisture is deposited versus where cold & snow is dumped. I live along a lakeshore in Northern California, or what used to be one, right now, it's about a one-mile walk (downhill) past the beach to where you find some water...
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  • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes. This is the truth. And 47 is up from the Roman pleb norm of about 28 years.

    The answer to living well with nature is improved technology.

    Jan
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  • Posted by scojohnson 10 years, 8 months ago
    The scariest 10 words in history... "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you."
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  • Posted by scojohnson 10 years, 8 months ago
    I grew up in northern Minnesota sandwiched between Chippewa, Dakota, and Sioux tribal reservations, they adapt just fine. Funniest thing I ever saw was watching the natives "fish" in Red Lake, MN... just toss a stick of dynamite over the boat, wait for the blast, then scoop up the stunned or dead ones as they float to the surface. One "cast" equals about 30 walleye pike... quite a bit more efficient than the way the 'white man' does it.

    They adapt just fine.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 10 years, 8 months ago
    You can't even make up stuff that would be funnier than the sad reality of Obummer's regime.
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  • Posted by DanShu 10 years, 8 months ago
    The indoctrination continues. Marxist never let up. They leave no stone unturned.
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  • Posted by TheOldMan 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Living with nature is just a faster death sentence. Mother Nature is trying to kill you 24/7. People born in 1900 had an avg life expectancy of 47 years. Today it is about 80 (USA). All of this increase is due to fighting nature, not living with it.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 10 years, 8 months ago
    Does the BLM have legal standing over BIA?

    I hate to say this, but it was *their* land, and it was looted from them. So in the current fashion of our dotgov, the looters are going to tell the residents how to manage their resources. Nothing's changed. Maybe to help defer winter heating costs, they'll distribute free blankets as well...

    And, gee, I wonder why they're getting pushback from the natives...
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    True. Alcohol and drugs. I was on the Blackfoot Rez once (in Browning). Never again. Not all have quit fighting the indian wars. There are a couple of bars around here that I would also never go into because I would be killed. Not just me, any cracker.
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  • Posted by bradberry1984 10 years, 8 months ago
    Pretty sad that the GOV that enslaved the tribal system is the same GOV that thinks (operative word) that the GOV knows better than the Native Americans.
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 10 years, 8 months ago
    Wasn't it Reagan who said the the most frightening words in the English language were "I'm from the government and I'm here to help" ?
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  • Posted by mckenziecalhoun 10 years, 8 months ago
    So now we're not only going to have our ecological mismanagement as part of our history, our conquering of the First Americans as part of our oppressive past, but we're now forcing our stereotypes of First Americans upon them in the name of ecology.

    Is any other group being subjected to this? Do they really think all First American tribes lived in balance with nature?

    Why just First Americans? I can think of a lot of places that could use a LOT more attention regarding ecology.
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  • Posted by jimjamesjames 10 years, 8 months ago
    No mention of the smallpox infested blankets the US government used to hand out to the tribes. Should the tribes be wary about that?
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 10 years, 8 months ago
    How! Me great white father. You ignorant Indian. You shut down casinos. Turn off PCs. Do not look at TV. Do not drive cars. Give a hoot. Do not pollute.
    You take this wampum to build teepee. Now me go catch jet ride home. Pelosi proud of me.
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