Vanua Levu is much the same. Plus we have the advantage of a long inlet, hopefully deep, to use as a harbor.

Nananu-I-Cake is close enough to the main Fijian island that re-supply would be less of a problem.

Did you see a deep enough harbor on Nananu-I-Cake? I didn't see any streams on that one.

The spot on Rukuruku Bay that you pointed out even has a house on it for you, johnrobert2. The only other site I saw with a house was on what looks like a natural stream (H2O source!).

Slaves to convenience. Slaves to 'security.'

Lots of room for boats, fishing, I guess with the right structural support, cranes for container off/on load? Lots of inlets which can be built up for aquaculture and/or marine research. The main house isn't too shabby either.

A 300 foot long pier!

People love their conveniences....but what a price some of them carry.

I figured the position from the "towns" that were part of the Google maps.

You can, but not without that being pretty obvious. The question is, do you care what others see and unfortunately transporting plants can become problematic between certain regions depending where you are. I still like the mobility aspect and I think one good solution would be large plastic bags with flat bottoms made from or exactly the same as trash compactor bags. They are durable and excellent "containers for plants, which add little weight, making them easier to move. I have also seen laundry baskets used. they stack when not in use, and are just line with plastic as a container. Also light weight and easily moved for best exposure or transportation.

I like it!!

Shank's Mare would be good also. Or shoe leather express.

Here's the satellite.
https://www.google.com/maps/search/Nanan...

My thought, too, when a base of operations is necessary and time nor money exist to put one in place. Hoping to get some kind of price.

Photos 26, 27, 28, 29, 31 of the ad seem to bear out the inclusion of the large inlet on Rukuruku Bay as part of the parcel.There's our harbor. There are about four smaller inlets westward of there which can be built up for aquaculture. I'm thinking the 4th inlet westward is photo 1 featured in the ad.

Touche!

The ad said it had water on north, south, and west, so I think the Rukuruku Bay on the north end is part of the property.

I certainly observe the results that you mention.
I think many of us take for granted many of the conveniences that living in the US provides (as a result of the productivity of many.)
If the gulch doesn't provide most of those conveniences we may not get long term gulchers that would be a real benefit to the community.
I have learned over the past few years traveling overseas that many of the trappings of USA consumerism that have been purchased by multitudes are not required for my happiness, but modern sanitation, transportation, and indoor climate control (et al) are extremely desirable.

When I visited Panama some years ago, I enjoyed a few meals with some expats there. One of them described the system something like this:
In the US you have to be a millionaire at least to participate in the system of favortism. In Panama, almost anyone can afford it. It's "equal opportunity corruption."
Unfortunately, I think that expat is now serving 20 years in federal prison, after being kidnapped by thugs (possibly Panama government authorized thugs) that were likely financally encouraged to 'extradite' the expat ignoring Panamanian legal process.
Staying below the radar is vital, and as in AS looters rarely stay bought.

I hope it includes the big bay on the north. There seems to be some development near the bay with a large structure located south and what appears to be a village closer to the bay. On the southern beach seems to be a couple of villages and single structures.

"I'm not seeing anyone who has left America because of all the constitutional trampling."
Exactly. I'm saying it takes more than that. It takes something positive happening in the enclave, not just dissatisfaction with one's own country.
"Many will have family ties that keep them here. That is why the Rearden family component to AS was SO critical."
If I had some of Rearden's family, that would be a family tie driving me to leave for some remote island. :)
His wife kept saying all business is dirty business, which is part of dirty politics. She's a nasty villain, a master of politics. She's one step up from the sanctimonious little shrew who dolled out alms in the motor plant.

It is the westernmost peninsula on Vanua Levu south of Rukuruku Bay and north of Bua Bay on https://maps.google.com/
Vanua Levu, Fiji

I agree more consideration to hiding in plain sight would be time well spent.

Hiding in plain sight would be my preferred option, but I would prefer to do that in the states, where the terrain is more familiar as it were.

I think subconsciously a lot of people might be equating "hiding in plain sight" to "sheltering in place" meaning not doing anything.

A remote location does have its appeal.

I'll lend a hand where I can with any option.

I would love for Atlantis to not be a place of last resort. Lots of people disagree with Robbie, but on one thing he is quite correct - people's tolerance for the current situation. Other than the Hallings and shruginargentina, I'm not seeing anyone who has left America because of all the constitutional trampling. Many will have family ties that keep them here. That is why the Rearden family component to AS was SO critical.

"Right now a permanent physical Gulch would be a place of last resort. We aren't to that point yet, but the timing of when things might turn that bad all depends on when China decides that the yuan should be the reserve currency instead of the dollar"
This is so much bigger than currency issues. right now the USD is the reserve currency. It won't be forever. This does not matter, except in trivial ways like making it harder for US to borrow, which is actually a good thing. UK used to be a major empire. Now it's not, and it doesn't matter all that much.
The Gulch isn't a place of last resort. It's a place for people who see the amazing future ahead and want to play a role in it in a place where they're free to move fast and break things. Maybe (highly unlikely) they'll form a federation of colonies and form something new an amazing like the US Founders did. Maybe it will be something like a state but a non-state; something no one seriously thought of seriously realizing outside of ancient Greek theorists. In such a narrative, the US carries on as the UK did. The usual ups and downs of life and history carry on. Many places might model their Constitutions after the non-state that emerges in Atlantis. The Founders were part of something amazing.
I'm **not** predicting this outcome, but some little sliver of it would be amazing... even a tiny sliver like a retirement home for intellectuals and incubator that gives birth to something like Twitter would be very cool.
It's not a place of last resort. It's a place helping pull humankind into the future.