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SAT to use 'adversity score' for students applying to college

Posted by mminnick 5 years, 11 months ago to Education
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The College Board, which oversees the SAT exam used by most U.S. colleges during the admissions process, plans to introduce an “adversity score” which takes into consideration the social and economic background of every student. "
The new adversity score is being calculated using 15 factors, including the crime rate and poverty level from the student's high school and neighborhood, The Wall Street Journal first reported.
Students won't be privy to their scores but colleges and universities will see them when reviewing applications."
"So far, 50 colleges have used it in making a decision about a prospective student's chances. The College Board plans to expand that to 150 higher learning institutions in the fall. The goal is to use it broadly by 2021."
"Yale University is one of the schools that has used adversity scores. The Connecticut-based Ivy has pushed to increase socioeconomic diversity in recent years and has almost doubled the number of low-income students.
"This (adversity score) is literally affecting every application we look at," Jeremiah Quinlan, dean of undergraduate admissions at Yale, told WSJ. "It has been a part of the success story to help diversity our freshman class." "

Doesn't Merit and hard work count for anything anymore. Of the 50 colleges using the "Adversity Score" how many admitted students that would not have been accepted without the score?


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  • Posted by Solver 5 years, 11 months ago
    Next, IQ scores readjusted based on new adversity bonuses. The greater your victimhood identities, the more bonuses added to your IQ.
    (Thinking not required.)

    (This better stay sarcasm.)
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 5 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I say this without any any irony or sarcasm. I never thought America wasn't great except for briefly at a teenager and in my early 20s. Then I saw other places, met other people, read more, had a chance to run projects and organizations and see how hard it is, and I realized America really is great. I am always for making things better. Another world is possible. But I always stop and look at this time and place, and I consider it amazingly good.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 5 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This is something I see a lot of people struggle with. We don't want to isolated in our little bubble, but that's a natural instinct. It takes some thought to draw the line of what's different ideas that make us uncomfortable and what's just misbehavior. I can come up with clear ideas, but it's harder where the rubber meets the road and people have a mixture of some misbehavior (infringing on others' rights) and some ideas that make us uncomfortable.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 5 years, 11 months ago
    I have a tiny problem with this. Today a guy was explaining they would test a student who finished above the others in his class in Mississippi, by 400%. Then the whole class, or school maybe, would get the benefit of his Adversity Score! Am I stupid? Why don't we just all move our kids over to Mississippi? Then they will all get the benefit of this Adversity Score thing.
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  • Posted by Robert_B 5 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How odd. I thought it might be worthwhile doing the same. At least I could hunt, fish, chop wood, and grow vegetables better than "an 'adversity disadvantaged' civil engineer" could calculate strength of materials!
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  • Posted by KevinSchwinkendorf 5 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    LOL! I think they call that gaming the system. It reminds me of when they started requiring all toy guns to have an orange tip added to the muzzle, so adrenaline-pumped police crashing through the door ,responding to a 911 call, don't shoot the 5-year-old kid whose aiming a plastic toy gun at them, and they (the cops) think the kid has a real gun (orange muzzles are supposed to be toy guns). So, what if a real bad guy paints the muzzle-end of his Glock orange? Like, we didn't see that coming (or maybe bad guys aren't that smart?).
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  • Posted by KevinSchwinkendorf 5 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How about the rest of us being "set up for failure?" Low-skills, low-merit graduates may not be too dangerous in "Women's Studies," "Sensitivity Awareness in Lesbian Literature", etc., but what about Engineering or Pre-Med (and on into Medical School, Internship, Residency, etc.). I do NOT want a surgeon cutting me open because he skated through school because he was black (or brown, or "trans" or insert your favorite victim group). Or how about driving across a bridge designed by an "adversity disadvantaged" civil engineer who got his degree because "you can't flunk the black dude!' (or, can't flunk the black dude when he takes his PE Exam, either!). Maybe its time to retire, move to the wilderness of Alaska, and become a hermit...
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  • Posted by $ blarman 5 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    While I appreciate the compliment, I think he got more of my wife. ;)

    Prager's a good idea, but he wants to do something math/comp sci-related - which he's really good at. I cringe every time he says MIT or Cal-Tech because they have excellent programs in the areas he wants to pursue but very corrosive atmospheres. The one thing I do have going for me is that I'm too poor (and dang-it if I had to work while going to school so do my kids!) to try to pay for him to go anywhere and he knows that. So unless they offer him a full-ride with all the bells and whistles, he's going to have to go somewhere a little more realistic.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 5 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I’ll try the negative sell on you.
    Don’t support Trump because making America Great again is not for everyone.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 5 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No surprise that he scored so high, being your son. Have him apply to Prager University.
    Keep him away from the liberal brainwashing.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 5 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That is what is great about free speech also.
    You can judge people on their character.
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  • Posted by Joseph23006 5 years, 11 months ago
    Let's see if I've got this straight: Yale wants to increase its socioeconomic diversity, has doubled the number of low-income students, claims the adversity score is "part of the success story to help diversity (sic, diversify?) our freshman class." Having eschewed the Christian values of its roots, and the liberal bias of the reigning faculty and administration, how does conservatism rank on the adversity scale? IE: liberal and conservative students have equal numeric scores on the SAT, will the liberal get a higher score while the conservative a lower one? There can be much manipulation, especially since students do not have access to the adversity score or any way to challenge it, it's like a secret court where you do not know what the crime is but only that you are guilty. Since academics are not necessarily a requirement for entry, Yale has merely become another liberal diploma mill!
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  • Posted by $ jdg 5 years, 11 months ago
    Why don't they drop the educational pretext and just admit that they are now an Intersectional Professional Victimhood Test. Then employers can use it in reverse, to send all the SJWs packing.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Whats so good about diversity. I would much rather live among people who are similarly cultured and educated to me. Particularly since most of the other cultures are really screwed up. Why be exposed to that on a daily basis.
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  • Posted by term2 5 years, 11 months ago
    I dont really care about 'diversity" at all. I dont care where they came from, the color of their skin, as well as the rest of the diversity characteristics.

    Much more important for me is the culture people were steeped in as children, and the way they think (or dont think) now.

    I wouldnt send my kids to college today. I think one can learn on their own much better, cheaper, and faster than if they waste time in our liberal colleges.
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  • Posted by Stormi 5 years, 11 months ago
    College is no longer about academics, only getting those they can reform into commies. Remember when we took the SAT and CAT cold turkey. It was about what you had learned over your years, no prepping, no stand ins, just what we knew. I had an alcoholic mother, guess that would have earned me points, however my score was such I did not need to play victim. My brother was denied entrance to Georgetown, with excellent scores, because of Black enetitelment there. College is a bloated waste of moneytoday, and they may actually ruin your kids, and send them home AOCs.
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  • Posted by ycandrea 5 years, 11 months ago
    The dumbing down process is on-going. They just keep coming up with ingenious ways to make it faster and better!
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  • Posted by TheOldMan 5 years, 11 months ago
    Simple solution. Rent an apt in some high-crime, low-income area, have your mail sent there, show up once a week, and use that address on all of your academic filings.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 5 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If diversity actually meant diverse opinions and ideas, that would be educational. Sadly, diversity means people with different color skin all thinking the same thing.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 5 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Of course they won't tell him why he didn't get accepted, just that "we get many more applications than we can accept."

    And congratulations on 1520.
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  • Posted by $ gharkness 5 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This is horrible. Absolutely horrible. I just saw photos of my youngest granddaughter receiving the award for the HIGHEST SAT score in her 7th grade class. My grandson is currently in the application process for several high-quality colleges.

    Yes, I suppose you could say they have some advantages, because they are in a school district known for excellence, and they come from a long, long line of high-IQ overachievers. Do you suppose that happened by accident? My son and his wife didn't just "accidentally" arrive there. They worked so hard and gave up a lot to get where they are (neither of them has a college degree, but in true AR style, they decided that they would not allow that to matter - you do what you have to do.) And now, to cap their brilliant kids at the knees is unconscionable!

    Is this a punishment for the recent scandal where the TV stars paid bribes to get their kids into school? I bet this is part of it, though not all. The rest is pure Bioleninism. But what of the kids and their families who did nothing wrong - they just happen to be in the "wrong" place at the "wrong" time, with brain power that literally will not be stopped.

    There will be a huge price to pay for this. Part of the price is that 1) You can't keep a good man down....so you, qhrjk, and people like you and my grandkids will succeed ANYWAY! (Thank goodness for kids like you!) 2) There is going to be an enormous re-evaluation of the quality of Ivy league graduates when industry realizes that these schools are putting out a substandard "product." And the "educators" will stand around scratching their heads, wondering "what went wrong with their brilliant plan."
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  • Posted by $ blarman 5 years, 11 months ago
    So for bright kids like my son who got a 1520 just last month, he'll get edged out for scholarship opportunities because he didn't live in an inner city. I'm sure he'll be happy to hear that justification on his denied college applications. Of course, I might be secretly celebrating that he isn't going to one of these pandering institutes of backward indoctrination.
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