Trump and Ojectivism
Posted by Tavolino 5 years, 8 months ago to Government
Trump and Objectivism
I’m puzzled by the formal Objectivist movement (ARI, TOS) and their complete disdain for President Trump. From the beginning they have never missed a chance not only to distance themselves, but also follow with a pompous negative certainty, without having the necessary relevant facts. Ironic, considering our foundations are based on proper identification (metaphysics) and validation (epistemology) before passing judgment or taking action (ethics). While I agree principles should never be compromised, context and perspective need to be objectively evaluated and applied, rather than a blind intrinsic repetition. Regarding Trump, there some broad hierarchal recognitions that I believe are very consonant with our philosophy.
Our fundamental basis is metaphysics, which is the proper identification of the nature of something. More than any past politician, however brash, Trump calls it like he sees it within his known knowledge. Be it the emotional motivations of political correctness, the lies of the “fake news,” the imbedded corruption, the recognition of the good and bad on the world stage (Israel, China, North Korea, Iran), the parasitical nations that feed off our teat, etc., etc.. The transparency of his thoughts have been unmatched and not hidden behind political speak, spins, alternate agendas, backroom deals or deceit. It is what it is.
As Dr. Jerome Huyler noted, “Trump has the sense of life of an individualist. His common sense - born of decades of experience as a businessman and dealing with politicians - tells him that taxes and heavy-handed regulations destroy economies. It is true, as Rand said that common sense is the child's method of thinking. But it is born of empirical experience,” the basis of knowledge acquisition.
His “America First” mantra should be championed by us. Rand had always said America will never regain its greatness until it changes its altruist morality. America First is just that. It’s not some blind German nationalism, but an attitude that America’s interests need to be selfishly upheld. This is a necessary fundamental to our ethics. He has attempted to keep open discussions with all, based around trade and fair exchange. Rand had said, “The trader and the warrior have been fundamental antagonist throughout history.” His movement away from aggressive wars, political globalism and multi-lateral agreements keep our own self-interests as paramount. It’s the application of the trader principle.
Lastly, his counter-punch mindset and approach is completely in line with our moral rightness of retaliation. He may prod or poke, but does not pull the proverbial trigger until he’s attacked, either with words or actions.
There is a dire threat that’s facing our country today with the abuses and power of the ingrained bureaucracy utilized for political purposes. It's imperative that all Americans unite, led by the voices of reason to identify and expose this fundamental threat to freedom. It's not about the false alternative of Trump or never Trump, it's about the American system and the fundamental role, purpose and responsibilities of government, regardless ones political persuasion.
As Objectivists, we need to continually apply our principles in the real world of what is, slowly moving it to where it should be. We need to descend from the “ivory tower” to the first floor of reality. Trump may not be able to articulate the principles, but are not what’s mentioned above consistent with our most basic and fundamental beliefs as Objectivists?
I’m puzzled by the formal Objectivist movement (ARI, TOS) and their complete disdain for President Trump. From the beginning they have never missed a chance not only to distance themselves, but also follow with a pompous negative certainty, without having the necessary relevant facts. Ironic, considering our foundations are based on proper identification (metaphysics) and validation (epistemology) before passing judgment or taking action (ethics). While I agree principles should never be compromised, context and perspective need to be objectively evaluated and applied, rather than a blind intrinsic repetition. Regarding Trump, there some broad hierarchal recognitions that I believe are very consonant with our philosophy.
Our fundamental basis is metaphysics, which is the proper identification of the nature of something. More than any past politician, however brash, Trump calls it like he sees it within his known knowledge. Be it the emotional motivations of political correctness, the lies of the “fake news,” the imbedded corruption, the recognition of the good and bad on the world stage (Israel, China, North Korea, Iran), the parasitical nations that feed off our teat, etc., etc.. The transparency of his thoughts have been unmatched and not hidden behind political speak, spins, alternate agendas, backroom deals or deceit. It is what it is.
As Dr. Jerome Huyler noted, “Trump has the sense of life of an individualist. His common sense - born of decades of experience as a businessman and dealing with politicians - tells him that taxes and heavy-handed regulations destroy economies. It is true, as Rand said that common sense is the child's method of thinking. But it is born of empirical experience,” the basis of knowledge acquisition.
His “America First” mantra should be championed by us. Rand had always said America will never regain its greatness until it changes its altruist morality. America First is just that. It’s not some blind German nationalism, but an attitude that America’s interests need to be selfishly upheld. This is a necessary fundamental to our ethics. He has attempted to keep open discussions with all, based around trade and fair exchange. Rand had said, “The trader and the warrior have been fundamental antagonist throughout history.” His movement away from aggressive wars, political globalism and multi-lateral agreements keep our own self-interests as paramount. It’s the application of the trader principle.
Lastly, his counter-punch mindset and approach is completely in line with our moral rightness of retaliation. He may prod or poke, but does not pull the proverbial trigger until he’s attacked, either with words or actions.
There is a dire threat that’s facing our country today with the abuses and power of the ingrained bureaucracy utilized for political purposes. It's imperative that all Americans unite, led by the voices of reason to identify and expose this fundamental threat to freedom. It's not about the false alternative of Trump or never Trump, it's about the American system and the fundamental role, purpose and responsibilities of government, regardless ones political persuasion.
As Objectivists, we need to continually apply our principles in the real world of what is, slowly moving it to where it should be. We need to descend from the “ivory tower” to the first floor of reality. Trump may not be able to articulate the principles, but are not what’s mentioned above consistent with our most basic and fundamental beliefs as Objectivists?
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Precisely, that's why my Atlas Shrugged quote was relevant to your use of the words "vote" and "pretend".
Businesses will not start with a 10 yr negative cash flow. This is not a regulation, it is our cultural decision making and the smaller pockets of private investment vs China’s public investment.
They have a long term plan, decades. Right now they are beginning their investment in AI to become a world leader in this area. Why? Because this will allow them to more quickly ramp up military strength at lower cost. This is not an assertion. It is their plan. We should all be very worried about them, particularly as our country loses economic strength through socialism and a decline in work ethic.
My position on freedom vs tarries and trade is that we are not fighting a fair war. I could be convinced that this is misplaced. Milton Freedman (I admire greatly) opposed tariffs. However, I’m not sure he got to see China vs silly stuff like Europe. Japan could be another precedent. People (me included) were worried about them, but they lacked the resources to really wage this war. China does not lack the resources.
I remain in favor of free trade and no tariffs however it is good to see different views sensibly expressed.
In particular- the barrier to reentry is almost infinite in our culture.
Yes, but is it culture or is it laws and regulations?
Unfortunately, the potential presidents now are not just more or less rational, but less more and more less.
"The quote from Atlas Shrugged is not irrelevant. Dramatically quoting Atlas. Shrugged in defense of the Libertarian Party is irrelevant."
"All of her subsequent analyses of votes were in terms of which candidate still made some significant difference (as in anti-Nixonites for Nixon to stop the collectivist McGovern) or not voting at all. She emphatically rejected any support for the Libertarian Party as both premature and intellectually inept and a disgrace -- but as a side issue in answers to questions because the Party had so little significance."
But you can do what you want to. No one is following you around trying to stop it.
National politics as publicity is not an "arena" for spreading the required ideas, many of which are not political at all. There are other organizations that try to generate awareness of the importance of different aspects of individual liberty without being Objectivist; they don't run presidential non-candidates for PR.
Promoting the Johson-Weld clown team in the name of progress in individualism was disgraceful. So were the spokesmen who gravitated into to sounding like the solution to major problems would be solved by focusing on illegal drugs, along with abdication of foreign policy and an unserious slapstick manner.
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I think you would find some of this history showing their mentality to be very interesting.
Quoting Atlas Shrugged to the effect that "words have an exact meaning" is right on point.
The left likewise will exploit any manufactured conspiracy-like connection to accuse anyone of "racism".
We don't think in arbitrary conjunctions.
The direct border assault has been worsening because it is orchestrated by groups encouraging and paying people to do it rather than legal entry. That is the source of the so-called "caravans". The left is demanding that those coming illegally be cared for at our expense as a form of international welfare central. Trump says he has been curtailing that through his intervention; who knows if that is true.
Some of those opposing illegal immigration oppose some kinds of immigration. They call it "illegal" (which it often is) but don't want it to be legal.
Proper justification for limits on kinds of immigration include criminal gangs, welfare indigents, and disease. This has had a big negative impact on victims near the border and those paying for the welfare, including some cities that have been targeted with large concentrations.
There are also limits on how much a country can assimilate of different kinds of people with different backgrounds without destroying our own form of government -- there are about 7 billion out there; how much of that can we survive coming here with tribalist and socialist premises?
An improper justification for blocking immigration is Trump's economic protectionism.
None of this is about race.
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