Ready for the EMP?

Posted by terrycan 3 years, 4 months ago to Going Galt
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Anybody have experience with this community?
I see a potential Gulch.


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  • Posted by dansail 3 years, 4 months ago
    People are people, whether they're in a large metropolitan area or in a small community hiding.

    I'm not impressed with their map of the States, showing the 'submersion zone' including the Rockies and the High Plains (are we really going to see the seas rise more than a mile???). Plus, it ignores what happens when Yellowstone blows (theoretically the western third of the States will be uninhabitable).

    Running away is not the answer.
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  • Posted by skidance 3 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    GMO seeds are (presently) only available to commercial farming enterprises. If you are one of those, you'd have to sign a contract with the seed provider. Just go with heirloom or open-pollinated seeds. Hybrids generally don't reproduce true to type. I'm a Certified Instructor with the Square Foot Gardening Foundation and keep abreast with such issues.
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  • Posted by Stormi 3 years, 4 months ago
    We had a bomb shelter when we lived in NM, would rather have died than been in it! I do have some Faraday Bags for my laptop and phone, but of what use, if all is gone.off grid?
    Besidds, I would want a two person, spit floor plan with open floor plan, can't stand anything else now.
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  • Posted by 73SHARK 3 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    But if the electronics on each end of the fiber and the electronics that control the generating systems are not in Faraday cages, then it won't matter. 🤔
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 3 years, 4 months ago
    I live in Sedona Az, my house is anchored to an iron oxide impregnated bedrock shelf which a portion of which had to be blasted out to accommodate the foundation of the house. plus the ground surface around the house is surrounded by iron oxide rocks. So, I'm confident that there is adequate protection against an EMP from a CME.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 3 years, 4 months ago
    There's a market for this, I think. I understand the super-wealthy have been at it for a while with much more lavish digs. Several years ago I was approached to help engineer a remote cattle ranch in New Zealand and I understand that was for Ted Turner. I was talking with them about wind and solar power.
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  • Posted by mhubb 3 years, 4 months ago
    almost no one in the US has any sense or being prepared for emergencies

    if an EMP or another Carrington Event happens
    in the US, likely 100 to 200 million will be dead in that first year

    we are overdue for another Carrington Event

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carring...
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  • Posted by bubah1mau 3 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If it comes to that, why not "die violently" fighting among friends who generally share your convictions?

    There are numerous small communities across the US (and perhaps Canada) who voted (or would have voted) at least 70-30 for Trump.

    Wouldn't life be better in such a place rather than hiding out as an individual in the middle of nowhere? Isn't there at least a little room for voluntary community action that is positive and constructive--as in defense against looters?
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  • Posted by shaifferg 3 years, 4 months ago
    Allosaur made the Yellowstone comment I was going to make, He did it better though!
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 3 years, 4 months ago
    That's an interesting end of the world as we know it map.
    Me dino blows my big honking carnosaur nose at any predicted submersion zones. "Let's go Al Gore!"
    What I've read and seen on TV about the Yellowstone caldera volcano indicates that a super eruption would destroy South Dakota and the widespread destruction not indicated by the map from the ash cloud would make all the gagging to death at Pompeii look like an anthill in comparison. That widespread ash cloud would even reach where I live in Alabama. Fortunately for us, odds are many more centuries should pass before it ever devastate most of North America once again.
    Yeah, I can just see Birmingham being a nuke target that's just a quick drive from my home and everything going to hell as a high crime anarchy zone.
    Being 74, legally handicapped for taking up a blue-lined parking space and unable to run, I share the sentiment expressed here by AJAshinoff.
    I'll be all coiled up and waiting like that rattler on that "Don't Tread On Me" Gadsden Flag.
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  • Posted by CerrodelAngel 3 years, 4 months ago
    ?the idea is very romantic, what about food, water, electricity, garbage-sewage, communications, medical, etc.
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  • Posted by mcsandberg 3 years, 4 months ago
    That's ridiculous. There isn't any need to hide like that.

    As for being ready for an Electromagnetic Pulse, we actually are in good shape. Even another Carrington Event wouldn't have all that much effect on us, because almost all long range communication is done over fiber now and the power grid is really tough and breakers would short any large imposed pulse to ground.
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  • Posted by katrinam41 3 years, 4 months ago
    I've heard of communities like this and what I found was anything but Gulch. If we did our own, it would be better, but putting a target on our backs doesn't sound appealing. The only way I can think of to use this idea would be to build a small town on top of the bunkers, with entrances disguised by individual houses and landscaping. Gulching in the open, if you will. Current communities are headed for the one-boss Cuffy Meigs model. They have only one uniting point, f--- the feds. That will not keep their communities stable without a central power, they will become the thing they hate.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 3 years, 4 months ago
    Hiding is not living, it is not the answer. I will die violently if I have to for me and mine before I hideaway. A faraday cage is great except that anything an electronic device may connect to may not be there and what you have (power/vehicle) will make you a shiny target for looters.
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  • Posted by mhubb 3 years, 4 months ago
    yup
    i have backup essential electronics in a faraday cage
    and i just ordered a new set of non-gmo seeds
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