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Is this the future for us all?

Posted by coaldigger 10 years, 10 months ago to Government
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Someone on my wife's Facebook page posted a link to this site. This is about where I am from and why I use coaldigger as an alias. The old high school shown is Gary HS. Their team name is The Coaldiggers. I graduated from there in 1959. There was a series of coal camps, all called Gary (#1 through #14). They were owned by US Steel. There was 100% employment. Laborers drove Buicks and had savings accounts. There were no drugs and crime was minimal. Most of my classmates were children of first or second generation immigrants. The coal produced was the best metallurgical, coking coal in the world. USS was referred to as "The Corporation" and took pride in every inch of the communities which they owned. Rent was minimal. Maintenance was a phone call away and every house was freshly painted every three years. There was no charge for electricity because the company generated their own power for the mines and residential use was such a small percentage that they did not feel it was worth installing meters. We only turned off lights in rooms that we were sleeping in.

Someone decided that producing steel was dangerous, dirty and beneath the dignity of American workers. Someone decided that coal was worse. The unintended consequence is Gary, WV.


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  • Posted by 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't know what the term for it is but there has always been a short circuit in my brain on simple tasks. I used to not be able to remember left and right. I took piano lessons and would lapse into playing the music on opposite hands. I am better at solving a matrix of calculus equations than cutting a board 4'-3" instead of 3'-4". I have garbled many names and can speak Italian that no one understands. Those that can guess what I am up to are most appreciated.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I just read what I wrote and am amazed no one called me senile for saying Ann Ryan instead of Ayn Rand. On this site no less. I can't edit it and I won't delete it because I deserve the ridicule even if I am only doing it to myself.
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  • Posted by airfredd22 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Re: Abaco,
    Dear Sir,
    While I as a strong Conservative agree with most of your comment, but I must caution you about your hyperbole regarding liberals. trust me, I hold no brief for liberals, but when you state that "they hate kids" and " They would probably like to see them all dead and piled like wood,"you sound much the same as liberals when they describe Conservatives. Sadly, this will defeat your purpose in trying to convince people of your opinion.

    Without a doubt, liberals constantly use children in order to try to damage conservatives, and we object to their reprepresentations.

    There is also no doubt that liberals in Congress constantly try to pass laws that will actually hurt our economy and therefore Americas children. Unintended consequences seems to be the only result of laws from a liberal Congress.

    Please, let's be careful the way we voice our opinions and stick to facts. I agree and respect your view, but let's not let hyperbole be the guiding factor in trying to convince people of our views.

    Fred Speckmann
    commonsenseforamericans@yahoo.com
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  • Posted by $ arthuroslund 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed. The early Romans had a one year term limit. It was not required but mandated by cultural honor. The chief was called "Counsel" because he was expected to seek advice from the Senate. I think maybe our founding fathers thought that something similar would take place here. It looks however, like honor among politicians left the planet a long time ago.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    All politicians, ultimately, have one goal, to perpetuate their positions of power. In order to do so they will sell out any principle and make any alliance. De Tocqueville said "The American Republic will endure until politicians discover that they can bribe the public with their own money". With or without an evil agenda or conspiracy, there is a constant danger due to human nature. Ann Ryan gives us a philosophy that forms a foundation that will support the good ideas of our founding fathers that was lacking and is a reason its defense is faltering.
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  • Posted by UncommonSense 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I once believed that. But after reading "The Rockefeller File" by Gary Allen, circa 1976...well, just keep voting period and we all get the same piled higher...no matter who gets in office. Read Chapter 12 "The Eternal Power Behind The Throne" to get straight to the point.

    If any of what Mr. Allen wrote WASN'T true, you can bet the house that the Rockefeller empire would have sued his life away. They never did.

    The only politicians I loosely trust are the ones that AREN'T associated with CFR, Club of Rome, Trilateral, etc. Texas Govenor Rick Perry is a member of the CFR ~ OWNED by the Elite & thus NOT to be trusted. He is just an example.
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  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It already has at a rapid clip under the current dictator in chief.
    Think Keystone Pipeline, fracking, the lead recycling plants. All withering because of misplaced ideologies.
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  • Posted by jerry1228 10 years, 10 months ago
    excellent commentary.
    unfortunately what has happened in Gary will spread throughout the country.
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  • Posted by RonC 10 years, 10 months ago
    Unintended consequences are only rounding errors to academics. Ideology drives the decision process rather than results, and so a few displace workers, utility bills that soar, even more manufacturing moved off-shore because not only taxes are high, but energy related costs are artificially high...these are all acceptable if we reach our ideological goal. Think of this, please. The way he dithers. The painfully inept way he reaches decisions, and the focus on the optics (a 75 cent word for "what others think of me")...I doubt he has a Ideological goal, or any other goal, at all. I know he can't express it in a simple one or two sentence statement.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 10 months ago
    "You load 16 tons and what do you get?"
    Apparently, if you are politically correct, you get poverty. Believe what PC Police tell you and you'll have cleaner air (maybe), better water (maybe), but no food on the table. Heck, isn't it worth it?
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  • Posted by Temlakos 10 years, 10 months ago
    Maybe Galt's Gulch shouldn't locate in the Uncompahgre River Valley after all. Maybe it should locate in the Appalachian chain, not the Rocky chain, if everyone catches my drift.
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  • Posted by $ arthuroslund 10 years, 10 months ago
    So, keep voting Democrat and you will get more of the same piled higher and deeper.
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    Posted by 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    When we allowed the free market to "decide" economic issues, we grew to produce wealth beyond the wildest dreams of the rest of the world. My ancestors were busy with agriculture in Virginia and North Carolina for over two hundred years when the demand for steel for WW I made jobs in the coalfields tremendously attractive. The land rich-cash poor farmers could work a couple of years in the mines and modernize their farms. After the war Europeans arrived in droves and by then wages were relatively low "for us" but great for them. The same thing was happening in industry all over with increased technology and mechanized methods.

    People that did not understand supply and demand were unhappy that their jobs were being bid on by other unskilled laborers from around the world and to secure their votes, the government agreed. At some point it was inevitable that since the cheaper labor could not move to the jobs, the jobs moved to the cheaper labor. Economic laws are just like natural laws in that they may be temporarily defied by artificial barriers but sooner or later the seas will breach the dyke.

    We denied the hard working immigrants an opportunity to do a job at a world-competitive rate that we were not willing to accept so instead of ambitious people trying to climb the economic ladder we incubated leeches, lost our renewable source of dynamic social development and added to the burden of all producers.

    Every day we make it worse. Anyone that thinks that they are saving the planet in the future by destroying the means of the human inhabitants of the present is certifiably insane.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 10 months ago
    Success threatens the would-be tyrant. Success is power.
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  • Posted by Abaco 10 years, 10 months ago
    Yes.

    And, yes - somebody deemed coal illegal. The biggest mouthpiece for that compaign has been our president, lately. I look at coal stocks in amazement. It doesn't matter that coal burning technologies have came a long way, making it a very viable source. Not good enough for the powers that be. Also, note that it's really the children who suffer in that region. That's nice for the left because they hate kids. They would probably like to see them all dead and piled like wood.
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