Again, the definition of a "baby" should be clarified.

And I knew a woman who had 8 drug babies, who all became court dependents at taxpayer expense, most of whom had developmental, physiological, learning disabilities, and/or behavioral issues. Drugs apparently inhibited her ability to "keep her legs closed," or to elect to abort fetuses which were nearly doomed to be defective.

I am well aware that sterilization would never be mandated. It is basically my way of stating that I am against abortion and that I think that those that chose to kill a baby should suffer consequences for such a choice.

I completely agree that societal pressure should be such that one would suffer terrible shame for miking that choice. The problem is that shame is a dirty word today. Things that are horribly shameful are common place today. Hell Susanna Gibson of Virginia should be to ashamed of her actions to even show her face outside; yet she ran for office lost and is now complaining that republicans used her actions against her.

I think that there should be societal pressure not to have sex without proper precautions by both parties, each and every time, unless married and otherwise prepared to become parents. Sterilization should never be mandated by any governmental entity, although social pressure might be an option.

I also think that a woman's right to self-defense is relevant here.

I have also thought that "viability" is a reasonable point to distinguish when a child begins to exist.

As far as having a "reasonable dialog", I have given up. Most attempts turn into emotional screaming matches, because people have been taught that feelings are more important than facts.

I think I define "child" differently than do many people. To me, a "child" exists when it is capable of surviving independently of its mother's body, e.g., when viability is reached. That point used to be considered 22-24 weeks. With more recent medical advances, that possibly could be stretched to 20 weeks. So enough with a 15-week limit! To have a reasonable dialog, definitions of "person," "child," "murder," etc. must be agreed upon.

so murder the unborn child???
really???

Boom ... you captured my thoughts with these words.

Sexual promiscuity and having a normal, responsible sex life are two different things. Despite all efforts, contraceptives can and do fail. According to such reasoning, which unfortunately is typical here, woman shouldn't have sex unless they're married AND want to become mothers. Men, on the other hand, have carte blanche.

I knew a girl who had eight abortions.
Eight.
Keeping her legs closed apparently never occurred to her.

I support abortion on demand, and then sterilization of both involved.

IMO , full term any ole' time baby murder is being Schiff touted a as pregnant lady's health care issue. You know, like getting a flu shot.
"Selfish" is a word that just jumped into me dino's noggin.
Oh, I just tested positive for pregnant again. No big deal. Off I go to see my abortionist again. La! La! La!

I look at this issue from a different perspective.
Women who would abort their babies probably should not be the mothers of our future generations.

murder for sex
nice trade some people make...
/s

did it ever leave?

Return of Molech?

Your comment on insanity is the very core of the sewage coming from CNN.

As for politics, politicians who expect remain in office while removing the abortion privileges that females have had for all their lives are foolish.
Women constitute more than half of voters, and many vote solely to assure themselves the privilege of sexual promiscuity without responsibility.
That voting block has repeatedly ignored the repercussions of the nationwide suicidal policies of the politicians they are supporting.
Such universal suffrage is and has always been a mistake and is why the States United were never intended to be a democracy by the founders.

my wish, elective baby killers would feel the pain the baby feels
both parents (to teach some responsibility to both sides)
and those doing it

Democrats gonna Dem. I could go punch one in the face I suppose but then I’ll just have bloody knuckles and be put in a cage. We can’t even stop them from using the wrong bathroom. How we gonna stop them from doing this?

dems gotta have their blood sacrifice