Monocrats are all the same, yet we continue to be surprised.

Posted by coaldigger 11 years, 4 months ago to Government
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A King is just the figurehead (given the right to govern by god) of a governmental system called a Monarchy where everything belongs to the King (government). Communism/Socialism are just systems whereby everything belongs to the collective people. A Dictator is just a King who obtained his right to govern by force. They are all Monocrats. Most countries of the world are governed by some entity that does not recognize private ownership of anything. Stateists in the US, both from the left and right, beneath the facade of their claims of belief in Representative Democracy and Capitalism, are Monocrats no better than any of the others. It may be argued that this is not so, that there are examples of leaders in Russia, China, Iran and elsewhere that are much worse but it is because in those countries there were no countering forces like exist in the US, feeble though they may be.

Given the the underlying principle that the government owns everything, it is easy to understand the concepts of "living wages", guaranteed entitlements, universal healthcare and free education from preschool through college paid for from the revenue, unfairly retained by the rich. Most governmental discussions of tax policy are laced with the concept that ALL revenue belongs to the government and the amount that citizens retain is a benefit granted by and a cost to government. Dirty words like "Free Markets" and "Capitalism" are used to describe the means used by the greedy not to produce the wealth but to get an unfair share. All Monocrats believe that "wealth" is naturally occurring, provided by nature or God, is fixed in quantity and it is necessary for an authority to exist to divide it up for the collective good. Virtually all of our politicians believe this to some degree and the ones that don't have not been able to make their case.


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  • Posted by Stormi 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, I too see the Oligarchy at work. I remember listening to an extremely long tape, British in origin, I believe, which talked about just that, and the connection to the Tavistock Inst. as a way of moving it forward. Conisder all the European families which make sure the wealth remains within the family. The Rockefellers in the US do the same, with holdings so hidden and complicated, a team of accountants each only know part of it. I think the ongoing importance of a Pelosi or Reed is fleeting, they are giants only for a moment and in their own minds. However, some political dynasties also control wealth as we see with the endless string of Rockefeller politicians. They see their right to own private property, but not the rights of the average Joe. The ruling class vs everyone else. They are not producers so much as entitlement inheriters.
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  • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I won't quibble about the evolutionary path by which today's species of apes and humans split from a series of creatures no longer with us but the human brain and it's complexity leads to many things that does not otherwise occur in nature. The ability to contemplate one's own death and to theorize/wish for an alternative is possibly the greatest barrier to the development of a rational system of civic organization. IF one were to believe that the entire existence for oneself is in this life, we would be much more interested in individual rights and the protection of those rights and the property associated with them. The degree to which one believes in an afterlife as a reward for contributions to the good of all mankind it is possible to form associations based on sacrifice. There will always be those that will take advantage of the altruists to acquire power and that chink in the armor of man allows him to be a slave. The belief in a single individual life for each of us inoculates us to the slave mentality. Government is FORCE. An organization of society that limits the use of force to the protection of individual rights would not have the reach nor be given the means of putting producers in bondage. A stronger clamp on creativity and production will aid in humans leaving the stage and Nature will be undisturbed by rational beings for a long time.
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  • Posted by Danno 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Founder's were Deists, not Theists. Probably because science was still young then.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think you've got the wrong term there. Ayn Rand was openly critical of organized religion and treated it with contempt, but she didn't limit her scorn to Christianity - she was an equal opportunity critic. And she didn't do so to prop herself up as a substitute - at least as far as I can tell.

    Rand - just like everyone else - chose to see the world in her own terms. She took a fairly radical approach to such and chose to focus on money as a status symbol: that wealth could be used as a measure of productiveness. She then placed this in context of a society based wholly on the market. She came from a society where the true market was underground - both empirically and socially and where government control of everything had doomed it to a haven for the politically connected, so one shouldn't ignore her history when evaluating her view of the world.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Keep it coming with the Greek (BTW - how'd you get the characters in there? Cut and paste from another program?)

    While I doubt the founding Fathers would be satisfied with the state of our modern politics, it is easy to see how the few maintain rule. All one has to do is look at the Bush family, John Kerry, Al Gore, the Kennedy family (includes Arnold Schwartzenneger who married a Kennedy), and many more. Money - rather than good ideas - is more commonly the ticket into national politics. How many of our current leaders were "groomed" for their Senate or House seats by virtue of well-connected beneficiaries? Nearly all of them, not least of these being our current President.
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  • Posted by $ WillH 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Then why are you here and supporting the site as a Producer? Did Hiraghm hack your account and type that?

    Seriously, she was an athiest, but the Antichrist? That's one toke over the line.
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  • Posted by really_smart_guy 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Delusional much? You know you're criticizing only your own misconceived notion of Rand right? I mean, you realize there is no basis in reality for your assertions right?
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  • Posted by mccannon01 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Feel free to discard anything of yours you no longer want. You seem to be obsessed with money or rather the fear that others may have an obsession with it. You remind me of the old adage of the Puritan. That is, the poor fellow never got a good nights sleep because he was constantly worrying that someone somewhere was having a good time.
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  • Posted by rlewellen 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I read the Ayn Rand lexicon and Atlas Shrugged I think I may throw out Anthem it's only money.
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  • Posted by SolitudeIsBliss 11 years, 4 months ago
    I see the United States as an Oligarchy - Oligarchy (from Greek ὀλιγαρχία (oligarkhía); from ὀλίγος (olígos), meaning "few", and ἄρχω (arkho), meaning "to rule or to command")[1][2][3] is a form of power structure in which power effectively rests with a small number of people. These people could be distinguished by royalty, wealth, family ties, education, corporate, or military control. Such states are often controlled by a few prominent families who typically pass their influence from one generation to the next. But inheritance is not a necessary condition for the application of this term.
    The American Political system operates as such ! Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and all the other idiots are a perfect example and that's why it's important to give ALL OF THEM the boot !
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  • Posted by Timelord 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I had this same thought after reading every single of rlewellen's comments. He or she seems to be completely unfamiliar with Rand's writings, OR he or she does not believe that words have meaning so that things you read can mean whatever you want them to!
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  • Posted by 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This post creates the same feeling I would get while walking quietly by the doors of inmates in an asylum and inadvertently waking one of the more violent patients. Perhaps I don't understand it but it is also possible the response is due to the fact that the Polish translation of my post was garbled and unintelligible.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, she was anti-stupidity, anti-irrationality and anti-hatred of the good for being good. If you think that makes one an "antichrist" then you should question whether being for this Christ is actually good - at least in the way you seem to be taking it.

    Rand was very very pro-distinguishing actual differences in people and in distinguishing reality generally. She never ever said any person can be replaced with another.

    Go read what she actually wrote and think on it before saying such obviously misinformed things.
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  • Posted by Rozar 11 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks for letting me know. Alright everyone we can all go home now, shows over.
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    Posted by rlewellen 11 years, 4 months ago
    Actually Ayn Rand was an antichrist anti bill of rights money worshiping ;propagandist set on making everyone replaceable, and indistinguishable. She was a monocrat of the worst kind.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 11 years, 4 months ago
    Yes. I like the analogy of children receiving an allowance. Clearly it is unjust for one child to receive more of this causeless benefit than another. Many people seem never to get beyond this level in their understanding of economics or how the world works or "should" work.

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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 11 years, 4 months ago
    Thank you for this post.

    "All Monocrats believe that "wealth" is naturally occurring, provided by nature or God, is fixed in quantity and it is necessary for an authority to exist to divide it up for the collective good."
    I think they probably would say "no" to this, but if you changed the wording a little, I bet many people in the public policy world would agree.

    It's like that saying, "these tax cuts will be very expensive."

    It's also like the saying "the president created jobs," or "jobs are being shipped abroad," as if jobs were things created by the gov't and rationed out.

    There's also the saying that "I can't succeed in this economy", as if the economy were some magical entity rather than people coming together to help each other in trades.

    They see it, as you say, as being about greed. But money is made when you do something that gives people a product or service they want.

    The average person in public policy would say, "oh yes, yes, of course," but not really think about how little decisions like my wife creating a system to help people with paperwork and then training an associate attorney on the system IS the economy. It's not some magical thing out there controlled by politicians.
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