To vote or not to vote. Oh my!

Posted by ycandrea 8 years, 11 months ago to Politics
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My first choice is Gary Johnson, but he does not have a chance of winning. My second and third choices, (Rand Paul & Ben Carson), are out of the race. I am left with Ted Cruz or Donald Trump. Cruz is probably the better of the two as far as being a more "Constitutional" candidate, but I just do not think he will be the winner. Donald Trump scares me about his world trade positions and his immature temper. He may land us right into another major war. So, it might be better to vote my conscience instead of for the only candidate who can win. Or maybe sit this one out. What you going to do?

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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Fine there are two opportunities

    NOTA is one one them


    The other is for the Do Nothing Party to form a coalition of the disenfranchised and unrepresented the 46% who aren't registered and don't vote and the percentage of those registered who won''t vote knowing their vote will be given to someone they despise.

    Window of opportunity is urging by email or letter the Rules Committee of the GOP to reject those delegates representing the stolen winner takes all votes and the move by Sanders to contest at the Socialist convention. 10:1 he's looking for an alternate candidate resolution to pass and take that spot figuring Hillary is going to jail.

    Whatever the reason the window is open but not for long.

    Where are the Libertarians? One comment and one comment only. Send Money.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Too many useful idiots in this country. Cruz wasn't perfect but he was a committed and proven Constitutionalist. Again substance has been stomped down in favor of bluster, hype, and the 10 second sound byte.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Who made you an expert on the legality of each Party's Rules? their of the two give a fig about Johnson at present. Libertarians are too weak on their own BUT there is a small window of opportunity to increase their strength but it will take more than slick websites on what they could do if only someone would give them a chance ...This IS your chance. Talking is not doing. We're better off voting NOTA than for someone who didn't have enough guts to seize the moment.

    The choices are International Socialism, National Socialism (they are both fascist) or a return to the Constitution. At least you could have got the definitions right.
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  • Posted by tprikryl 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As disgusted as I am about where things are in this country, I frankly don't see any better options any other place in the world. So, my strategy for now is to do whatever I can to move the country in the right direction. I do understand that I am never going to get "there" in my lifetime, but maybe there is progress to be made.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 8 years, 11 months ago
    Well, this is 4 May 2016. We no longer have the
    choice of Cruz. As much as I despise him, I think
    I will have to vote for Trump, to keep H. Clinton
    out. Think about the Supreme Court appointments.
    Of course, with Trump, it would be a crapshoot, and a wild risk, but with H. Clinton?! Out-and-
    out Socialism!
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks, I would of thought registering for the primary etc would of covered that...but I will be checking.
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  • Posted by ycandrea 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He has been saying that all along. He said from the beginning last year that he will "replace" Obamacare.
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  • Posted by ycandrea 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think that we need to crash and burn and rebuild. It may be our only way back to sanity.
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  • Posted by jabuttrick 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    i am not a Cruz fan and never would have voted for him, but I think his comments Tuesday morning were spot on. Everything he said about Trump was accurate and verifiable.
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  • Posted by jabuttrick 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Very well put. Some people seem to think that voting is an activity akin to betting on a horse race, i.e. you get some sort of benefit if you pick the winner. In fact that is not the case. If it were true we should all vote for Clinton, the most likely winner. But we get no benefit from having the winning ticket. Instead you should vote your conscience. Johnson.
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  • Posted by jabuttrick 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It most states it won't even be counted unless the candidate has filed for write in status. Is that the case where you live?
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  • Posted by jabuttrick 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    These are pipe dreams. Katich is quitting this afternoon. The Rules Committee is going to do absolutely nothing. It's Clinton/Trump/Johnson. those are your only choices. Accept it and ask yourself whether you are going to vote Socialist, Fascist or Libertarian.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That would certainly be an interesting scenario and it is certainly the one Kasich is hoping for.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wow! Let's refine the scenario of the Rules Committee challenging and rejecting the winner takes all stolen vote.

    1. They have the legal right to do so.
    2. That puts Cruz over Trump but Cruz quit.
    3. That means anyone can be selected at the convention using only seated delegates. Who? Whoever the Republican establishment wants.



    4. Hillary gets indicted after the convention. That means her VP choice moves up? What's the answer to that? Let's hope it's Sanders.

    With Trump dumped and Hillary jailed...

    It may not be pretty but it won't be those two.
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  • Posted by floreo 8 years, 11 months ago
    Ben Carson was my first choice. At this point, it is Trump or Clinton. The choice could not be clearer, provided you can accept the proposition that in his deepest heart, the Donald is, in fact, a sane person. The Button is the only question!
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Remind me about it all you want if Trump wins I'll do the same big deal. Left is left by any other name is still left.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's a pure left wing term if ever was. Is it profit if it is gained by immoral or illegal methods? OR by changing the rules to make once illegal or immoral acts acceptable? You have the wrong terminology - a false premise.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Cruz is a career politician at his heart. He was into the power of the presidency, as one could tell by his comments on Tuesday about Trump (talk about NOT presidential talk?) and his immediate withdrawal from the race when the voters trounced him big time in ONE primary election. He took his marbles and went home.
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  • Posted by DeanStriker 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We see nothing on our ballot which might allow us to "fix this mess". Whatever we as individuals might do is already Against the Ruler's Laws!

    "Thou shalt Sacrifice"!
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