Although I'm beginning to wonder if it would raise the age to 21 to purchase and own firearms. Maladjusted young people shouldn't own firearms.

While I'd like to believe you, I look at the TV programming and where there used to be real family-oriented shows like "Family Ties", "Major Dad", "The Cosby Show", and "Home Improvement" now you have crap like "Modern Family". Even "Last Man Standing" was too values-oriented and traditional for the standard networks despite having excellent viewership and ratings.

Then I look at the laws. Did you know that California just passed a law revoking parental privilege? Now the State gets to determine what is good for children to learn and how it is acceptable to act.

Family values are under assault every day and in every situation. While I'd love to believe that traditional values were standing strong, I see many even in my conservative community questioning. I appreciate your optimism, however.

Check your #2 description. Legally, assault is constituted by a legitimate threat. Battery is an actual physical altercation. They need not both occur. Both may be tried in civil court and some may be escalated as criminal events.

As I said, she was arrested and she'll get her day in court. The prosecution carries the burden of proof. Let's see what happens with that. I didn't see it in the article, but usually when you arrest someone there has to be a warrant, which also must be based on probable cause and/or evidence. So let's see the warrant, as it must spell out the alleged criminal behavior.

Quit buying into this. Family values are still alive and well.

The first thing we need to do is scrap the Department of Education. They don't do anything except hire a bunch of idiots who dream up baloney to interfere with our raising of our children.

This is a knee jerk response to fear. Looking at the details if something horrific can have many purposes aside from planning an attack - writing a book, interest in planning counter measures or just a morbid general interest in mass murders. As for the ammo purchase and guns, did she obtain them legally?
To precharge someone for a crime they may or may not commit in the future is contrary to the presumption of innocence and bypasses due process. It opens Pandora's box where anyone or any entity can make an argument, or fabricate an argument, to have anyone detained or arrested.

No, it better to wait until such time this woman is armed and stepping on school grounds, one toe.

Has nothing to do with free speech nor protected. Nothing in the 2 articles leads me to believe a violent attack occurred. That doesn't mean it didn't happen but it doesn't mean it did either. We'll have to agree to disagree.

Definition of assault
(Entry 1 of 2)
1a : a violent physical or verbal attack
b : a military attack usually involving direct combat with enemy forces an assault on the enemy's air base
c : a concerted effort (as to reach a goal or defeat an adversary) an assault on drug trafficking

2 law a : a threat or attempt to inflict offensive physical contact or bodily harm on a person (as by lifting a fist in a threatening manner) that puts the person in immediate danger of or in apprehension (see apprehension sense 1) of such harm or contact

You would not have to ask, if you had spent as much time as I have since pre-Columbine, inside schools. Clinton put in outcome based ed in his Gov. School in Ark., only to see suicide result. Columbine was one of the early ones to implement it, and a year before, we stuidied what wan included, and our parent group siad bad things would result. When dids are told there is no right or wrong, parent's values can be ignored and grade school kids can make their own, Kids are being drugged with Rx at school request. They being brainwashed, paychoanalszed by mere teachers, group hypnois and Maslow group theapay are done on grade school classes. as they are bing handed unrelaisticly high expectations of what the world will do for them. They are angry, and don't understand what is happening to the beautiful world they are told they deserve. Many are told they will be reincarnaed, so what happens does not matter. It is literally, child abuse by educators and politicians who implement the programs.

People today feel entitled to be protected from negative emotions. They feel cheated by our legal system’s inability to prevent “microaggressions”, so they take matters into their iwn habds

Assault means that someone not only said something, they said it seriously AND had the means to carry out the threat. If they had a witness testify to police that this woman made a threat and had the means to carry it out, LEO's were entirely justified in taking the person into custody on the charge of assault. The burden of proof remains with the prosecution to then justify the charge either through corroboration from another witness or by legal audio recording. If that process fails, the witness can be charged with lying to a police officer and the defendant is cleared of charges.

I understand you think that this is a (pre-emptive) assault upon the liberty of free speech, but it isn't. The police responded to an assault charge. One doesn't get to make threats against another person's life and simply call it "free speech" or "protected speech" - even puffery. It wasn't the possession of firearms and ammunition that got her into trouble, but the threat. The firearms only legitimized the threat.

the (public) school of today is not a school in the traditional sense...it is an indoctrination center for producing ignorant, loyal citizens who support a fascist society run by the few at the top...virtual prisons...the teachers union is very powerful .. all about teachers and not about teaching...

They are just words, and words of an accuser. I've seen no proof. Someone said she said it. If this is the case, every person who gets angry and says they want to kill themselves or someone else will need to be committed. Every man going through a divorce better video tape their entire life because this is going to be used to destroy them. And likely women too. Or the teenager that gets angry with their parents. Very slippery slope. The unintended consequences of these kinds of laws are going to destroy innocent people.

I'll simply come back to the above Benjamin Franklin quote, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

It happens for a million reasons, and reach a boiling point when the happy bubble burst.

Why do things like this happen? Simple: because people aren't being taught at home to value humanity - to see others as equals of themselves. They are being taught to think they are either better than others by virtue of their social status or political affiliation or - far more often - they are being taught that they are inferior to others: victims. As victims, they have the right - or even the obligation - to seek revenge for hypothetical wrongs in order to escape their victimhood. The problem is that all they are doing is buying into a lie and creating real victims.

If she had said nothing, then I agree with you, but words spoken like this are serious and constitute grounds for an assault charge. I think the authorities were entirely legitimate in their apprehension of her.

Fifteen minutes of fame.

Thanks for the link. I hear ya, but I don't agree that preemptive actions are the only option. I think there are many other ways, like having an officer follow the person around for a period of time. (This would be time better spent than doing traffic tickets.) See if the actions fit the accusation before destroying this persons life. If she is innocent and was not homicidal prior to this, once she goes in debt $50,000 or so to pay legal bills from this accusation, she very well may become homicidal.

Reminds me of the Benjamin Franklin quote, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

We will end up on this path until people start taking personal responsibility for their own safety. This is going to destroy many people that did nothing wrong.

Here is the link:

https://ktul.com/news/local/mcalester...

I agree with your premise, however, the real issue is that the past events (which are suspiciously repetitive) indicated that there was always clear warnings and signs of impending actions, so preemptive actions are the only option left to law enforcement. The suspicion generated may be the whole point of the repetitive exercises. If you want to build an atmosphere of suspicion and doubt, isn't this how to do it?

Thanks, but sorry I still don't see another link. And truthfully, I'm not sure it matters. Still think we are on a slippery slope if someone can say someone said something and they get arrested for it. As it is now, if someone wants to destroy another, all they have to do is accuse them of something. We can now be guilty before we actually commit an act. Sounds like 1984 to me. I'm not saying they shouldn't keep a close eye on this person. Just saying we should not be arresting someone based on an accusation.

Just FYI, this crap doesn't help either, creating an atmosphere of "You can't do anything to stop me"....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/california...

From the article linked in the 1st article: "Deputies were told 18-year-old Alexis Wilson was showing a coworker at the Pizza Inn videos of herself shooting an AR-15 rifle that she'd just bought. She told the coworker that she was going to shoot 400 people for fun, adding there were so many people at her old school that she'd like to do it. " Mirrors what a lot of the "others" who did things like that said beforehand.

I don't see that in the article. Where did you get that info?

She actually made threats to the effect that she wanted to shoot 300-400 people at the school on social media prompting the cops to pay her a visit.

From reading this article, I don't exactly see what this person did that is different from many others. I read no threats. Almost sounds like someone was trying to set this person up. What is wrong with buying an AK and 5 mags with 160 rounds. I could shoot that muçh on a target range in a half hour, or less. We are going down a bad path from what I can pull from this article.

As our society devolves in the way it has been it is getting tougher and tougher to raise children. The matrix doesn't give a damn about your kids. In fact, they hate them. Somewhere in our history we decided to let the government run an education system for children. Then, about the time I was born the government started replacing the man in the household, taking the role of father. Now, they're starting to usurp the role of the mother. Developmental disorders in America's children have exploded. I know more families dealing with them than not. Public schools take an almost socialist approach to achievement. Single-parent families are becoming the norm...

...No wonder this kind of stuff is happening more often.