Is the Gulch possible in 2023?
I don't mean politically or where would the land come from, etc. I'm talking simply about feasibility and resources, human and otherwise. I'm referring to his maxim about doing the minimum you can (in the outside world) to sustain yourself, not "work for the looters", etc. Certainly in 1957 I would say impossible. Personally I disagree slightly with this part of Galt's (Rand's? I tend to use them interchangeably) philosophy. If I do better for myself, I'm working for myself and enjoying the benefits. As long as I'm not working free out of pure altruism for someone else, I don't see what the harm is IMHO. But back to the point...
We are not supposed to do anything that "supports the looters" which I take to mean just about any commerce in the outside world. If that's the case then to pull off an Atlantis in real life, it would have to be 100% self-sustaining. Just thinking of the movie since that's more modern, don't phones still have to come from the outside? Some building materials? Is there a hospital in the Gulch? Are there farms sufficient to make food production completely self-sustaining? Also the use of gold. I understand Galt said that Dagny was "broke" because she didn't carry around gold with her. Does that mean any gold from outside the gulch is no good? How would one notice the difference? Does that mean every coin was mined from within the gulch? There's still an exchange rate where one could buy gold on the outside and bring it in (personally I'd be for expanding the currency to silver and copper too for small purchases, but I digress...)
So to maintain the Gulch would require being 100% self-sustaining requiring no good, product, service, or raw material from the outside world. In 2023, unlike 1957, I think this IS theoretically possible since I believe there are enough producers from all industries necessary to survive. But I don't know if I can say the same for raw materials. There would have to be someone who has the skill and physical resources to build technology, lay telephone lines, put up cell towers, manufacture the phones and tablets and computers, enough farms to provide fruit, meat, and dairy for everyone. Hospital and medical/specialist services. Tall order. I think this is all in THEORY possible, whereas we could find enough producers to cover every field. A tech company like Samsung may have Galtian employees (Quentin Daniels types) but would they be able to produce the same in the Gulch? Would they have the facilities? The materials? Unless I'm getting Galt's philosophy wrong, his ideals in the Gulch would be next to impossible because at some point something must be needed from outside.
Thoughts?
We are not supposed to do anything that "supports the looters" which I take to mean just about any commerce in the outside world. If that's the case then to pull off an Atlantis in real life, it would have to be 100% self-sustaining. Just thinking of the movie since that's more modern, don't phones still have to come from the outside? Some building materials? Is there a hospital in the Gulch? Are there farms sufficient to make food production completely self-sustaining? Also the use of gold. I understand Galt said that Dagny was "broke" because she didn't carry around gold with her. Does that mean any gold from outside the gulch is no good? How would one notice the difference? Does that mean every coin was mined from within the gulch? There's still an exchange rate where one could buy gold on the outside and bring it in (personally I'd be for expanding the currency to silver and copper too for small purchases, but I digress...)
So to maintain the Gulch would require being 100% self-sustaining requiring no good, product, service, or raw material from the outside world. In 2023, unlike 1957, I think this IS theoretically possible since I believe there are enough producers from all industries necessary to survive. But I don't know if I can say the same for raw materials. There would have to be someone who has the skill and physical resources to build technology, lay telephone lines, put up cell towers, manufacture the phones and tablets and computers, enough farms to provide fruit, meat, and dairy for everyone. Hospital and medical/specialist services. Tall order. I think this is all in THEORY possible, whereas we could find enough producers to cover every field. A tech company like Samsung may have Galtian employees (Quentin Daniels types) but would they be able to produce the same in the Gulch? Would they have the facilities? The materials? Unless I'm getting Galt's philosophy wrong, his ideals in the Gulch would be next to impossible because at some point something must be needed from outside.
Thoughts?
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Stay the course and your precious USD will buy only what your masters say you can have.
Even the MAFIA wouldn't take > 50%
But if you are self-employed you can pay 39% and 15% for about 54% (yeah, I consider both sets of taxes). Or you pay massive income tax, in a GRADUATED tax, which our constitution said should not be done. (Oh, but it's not... It's a DISCOUNT if you make LESS than some levels. Umm... Still the same thing).
Lies My Doctor Told Me. By Dr. Ken Berry.
The doctors I Follow NOW all have changed so much, that their goals are to DEPRESCRIBE the medicines they were pushing.
When you realize it's not just Covid, the flu, the childhood vaccines. But Statins? Utter BS. T2D is a lifestyle disease mismanaged by doctors.
I watched them turn my neighbor INTO a T2D in TN. Don't get me started about cancer therapy, where they count it as a SUCCESS if the drug kills you before the cancer does.
And I also said "When the lights go out!"
With access to tech, a doctor in a pinch is great.
Emergency Medical is Amazing.
Prevention? We're morons. More than HALF the drug trials CANNOT be reproduced. Besides being invalidated statistically when they can BURY 10 studies that showed danger, and only publish the 1 study that is so doctored up it's worthless.
I knew a Cancer doc. $50,000/treatment. He would NEVER take it, and he would NEVER give it to a family member. But he hides behind "It's standard of care... And cancer is a death sentence, so I do the best I can for my patients"
Yeah... Don't need them doctors!
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So, where? I like places like Tennessee, Texas, a breadbasket state maybe. Anywhere there is no state income tax would be good. Any state with no Demoncrat state majority. Any state which believes in the right to defend one's right to exist. But we have to start soon, no matter which idea takes hold. Having even a whisper of a haven will be needed sooner than we want to believe.
The outspoken radicals are a very small minority which is the only thing that still has me hopeful.
An EXCELLENT definition of insurgency!
Thanks for the thoughts....
But well thought out and presented.
I believe the word would be COMPLETELY destroyed. I welcome it. Because that's what we deserve for letting it get this far out of control.
This is a GLOBAL DARWIN AWARD!
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