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Tucker Carlson Interviews Vladimir Putin

Posted by freedomforall 1 year, 2 months ago to Politics
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Exerpt:
"Last week, Tucker Carlson traveled to Rusia to interview President Vladimir Putin. This sent the left into hysterics - some of whom have called for the journalist to face sanctions, or worse.



Prior to the interview - which can be seen right now in its entirety at tuckercarlson.com, Carlson explained that it's his job as a journalist "to inform people," as "most Americans are not informed" as to what's happening in Ukraine.

To that end, let's get into it.

Tucker starts the interview by asking Putin why he invaded Ukraine, "and the answer we got shocked us."

Putin proceeded to delve into the history of Ukraine, going back to the middle-ages. Tucker pushed back, saying "I'm not sure why it's relevant to what happened two years ago," to which Putin continued with the history lesson.

"But why didn't you make this case for the first 22 years as president, that Ukraine wasn't a real country?" Tucker asked.

"The Soviet Union was given a great deal of territory that had never belonged to it, including the Black Sea region. At some point when Russia received them as an outcome of the Russo Turkish wars, they were called New Russia or another Russia. But that does not matter. What matters is that Lenin, the founder of the Soviet state, established Ukraine that way," Putin replied. "For decades, the Ukrainian Soviet Republic developed as part of the USSR. And for unknown reasons, again, the Bolsheviks were engaged in Ukrainization."

The trigger for the Ukraine war: "Initially, it was the coup in Ukraine that provoked the conflict... They launched the war in Donbas in 2014 with the use of aircraft and artillery against civilians. This is when it all started."

NATO Expansion

Getting to the meat of the Ukraine war, Putin told Carlson that "The former Russian leadership assumed that the Soviet Union had ceased to exist and therefore there were no longer any ideological dividing lines. Russia even agreed voluntarily and proactively to the collapse of the Soviet Union, and believed that this would be understood by the so-called civilized West as an invitation for cooperation and association."

"We were promised no NATO to the east, not an inch to the east, as we were told. And then what? They said, well, it's not enshrined on paper, so we'll expand.""


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  • Posted by $ Abaco 1 year, 2 months ago
    The left is upset with Tucker over this. Yet, when Trump was in office John Kerry, who had no job at the time, would show up after Trump left a foreign nation and try to undo everything Trump did. What a total POS Kerry is...I have this opinion from a buddy who had to protect Kerry in the secret service...just a total POS "biggest asshole I ever met".
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  • Posted by 1 year, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks for that source (1420.)
    However,as to the Ukrainian video, I have no faith in anything coming from the Ukrainians who are liars (desperate or corrupt to get more billions that we can't afford to send) or the western press who are utterly controlled.
    Based on conversations I had some years ago with Russians, Putin has respect and control because he has convinced Russians that he is a Russian patriot. (I haven't spoken to them recently.)
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  • Posted by DrZarkov 1 year, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Opposition voices in Russia quickly disappear. The one source that seems to somehow leak out is the 1420 (name of the source, not a number) independent interviews of ordinary Russians on the street. Most toe the line about how wonderful Putin is, and how everything is just fine, but there are a not so insignificant number of people who speak surprisingly frankly about their concerns, unable to contact relatives who've been conscripted, rising costs, failure of utility systems, their desire to end the war (which is daring, since to refer to the "special operation" as a war is a criminal offense).

    If you want evidence of something not being right, some of the recent Ukrainian videos from the front line show T-62 and T-55 tanks they've stopped that have no upgrades, like added armor, which indicates they were sent to the front directly from storage, as soon as they could be made to run. That's a sign of problems in the refitting that's supposed to happen with these older vehicles, indicating labor problems crippling the component supply chain. Earlier these vehicles were just used as "zombies," loaded with explosives and sent without crew into minefields to clear a path, and later were said to just be used as light mobile artillery, not on the front line, but lately have been seen as part of direct assault forces.
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  • Posted by 1 year, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In order to know that is true, we need an inside source in Russia, not the controlled western media nor the warlords in NATO who would sacrifice their own mothers to maintain their power. Manpower might not be the weakness that we believe. I do acknowledge it is more of an issue for Russia than for NATO since NATO cowards have only risked our economy.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov 1 year, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Unfortunately, Putin's insane exercise to try to expand the Federation is bleeding out the Russian workforce. That's showing in the inability of the military centers to come close to the call for increased production, with the heads of the various production houses protesting they can't find any workers, thanks to mobilization efforts that have pulled workers into military service.
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  • Posted by 1 year, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Russia has the raw materials and a workforce. Unfortunately no one in the 'west' will help Russia become a safe, confident, peaceful trader. It has to be a corrupt tyranny that gives most of its production to warlords and banksters. The Deep State must be defeated for the Russian (and any other) people to have any chance at the pursuit of happiness.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov 1 year, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As I recall, what Zeihan thinks is that the Chinese Communist Party will disappear, and be replaced by a much-changed system, after an ugly economic revision. Xi Jinping has pretty much eliminated any personal competition for power, and has become essentially an emperor. Unfortunately for Xi, the incredible depth of the CCP corruption is only beginning to surface. The recent discovery, which I'm sure would be appalling to any head of a nuclear armed state, that the tanks of its ICBM force were filled with water, the fuel having been siphoned off and sold, are just one sign that things are definitely not in order.

    If Russia shifts its gears (and Putin will have to go for that to happen) away from being primarily a military production house to being an agricultural breadbasket (they already provide a substantial part of the world's grain supply), using their technological edge to further automate agricultural production, that will overcome its demographic issues.
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  • Posted by term2 1 year, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think demographics will change the economies of China and Russia from what they are today. That said, human nature is quite adaptable and zeihan doesn’t consider the ingenuity of people to react to those chabges. He thinks China will pretty much disappear, which sounds pretty unlikely to me
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  • Posted by 1 year, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Now we know where to send 60 million illegal invaders.
    Unfortunately, there is no rational government that is foolish enough to accept them regardless
    of the demographic imbalance 'problem.' Most of the rest of the world has many worse
    problems and they don't purposely destroy their own civilization as a solution.
    The solution is worse than the problem it is supposed to solve.
    Americans managed to survive world wars and economic catastrophe at the hands of
    the banking cartel. American people can conquer this 'problem' better than the elite
    but the result might be better for the people and reduce the wealth and power of the state.
    It's another 'problem' like global warming. It will just give the Deep State cover
    for their plans to eliminate all freedoms except for themselves.
    Typical of the elite who feel that the people can't decide whats best for themselves
    and their loved ones. They are definitely traitors and should be treated as traitors.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 1 year, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I would stick with the obvious standard definition but it's kind of a moot point at this point in time, just as the "slavery" issue.
    Mankind has gone through many stages of enlightenment, (or UN-enlightenment) from the spoken word, to communal living, complex societies, to metaphoric speech, awareness of one's own awareness, raw and evolved introspection and all actions in relation to that introspective ability; the latter, not always "just in time" results.

    Believe what one may but it's clear that one cannot be blamed for the actions taken, mistakes, misunderstandings of the past, unless one is still behaving in those ways, (like the democrapic party and the resulting political Rino-viruses), much less the openly heathen UN-introspective bicameral's which pretty much involves 60% of present day population according to the last studies of such.
    Of Course we understand that a majority of which resides within governments and associate offices.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov 1 year, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There are a lot of economists who say pretty much the same thing as Zeihan about the Chinese economy. Part of the problem is the heavy reliance on real estate, with the "ghost cities" that are unoccupied being an illustration of excessive overbuilding. The pending collapse of that sector of the Chinese economy is like the US subprime fiasco on steroids.

    The Ukraine mess is definitely a Putin mistake. Biden is just carrying out the orders he gets from the folks behind the curtain. American military action has become an embarrassment, and the constant whining about not wanting to escalate has prevented decisive action needed. The world is exploding because our enemies feel the time to take us down is while we have an incompetent demented head of state.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov 1 year, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Zeihan is not a military expert, so he was definitely reaching with his predictions of more victories for Ukraine like retaking as much or more ground as they did in their first surprise offensive. The Russian commanders were caught with their pants down the first time, and were much better prepared for the later offensives.

    I did check on his statements about the demographics, and his numbers are correct. Think about the predicted collapse of our Social Security system when all the Boomers retire, and there aren't enough working age people to keep feeding the Ponzi scheme. Russia has one of the worst demographic imbalances of the developed countries, so their situation is worse.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov 1 year, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The UK intelligence service based the estimates on the number of armored vehicles lost since October in the assaults on Avdiivka and Krinky (?, sp). One assault that went several days against Avdiivka, with only infantry, with commanders unaware they were sending troops into seemingly unstoppable machine gun fire. The guns had been set to operate remotely, without any Ukrainians manning them.

    The normal ratio of attackers to defenders is estimated at about 3 to 1, but the UK intelligence service has estimated a consistent 7 to 1 ratio for the "special operation" based on the number of Russian units that lost combat capability and had to be replaced.

    Ukraine appears to have made better use of FPV drones, and has stepped up production to the extent they can target troops as well as armor, flying the explosive drones directly into Russian trenches.

    Part of the armor loss may be due to the effort to bulk up the force with the use of updated T-55 and T-62 tanks, that are more vulnerable to FPV drone attacks than the T-72, T-80, and T-90. When a Russian T-55 or T-62 is lost, more KIA result, as the older tanks lack the autoloader, and have to have a fourth crewman to load the cannon.

    I was surprised at the KIA ratio, and tried to get a link to a complete document, but all I've found is secondhand information through American and French sources, so it's one of those things that have to be taken as a "could be less, could be more" number.

    It's plausible that the "Storm Z" troops, who have limited training could be the source of heavy losses, inexperienced, sent into combat with limited ammo, and shot if they try to retreat. The Russian commanders seem to be banking on the fact the Ukrainians are going to run out of ammo before Russia runs out of bodies, and given the admission from the Ukrainians that they're desperately short on artillery shells, the Russian commanders may be right.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 1 year, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The states in the east didn't steal land, they had agreements and cooperation from the natives. The natives in the east wanted to be apart of this new country. The west was another story, A Holes on both sides.
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  • Posted by 1 year, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Peter Zeihan? seriously?
    I've seen a number of his videos and he always seems to parrot the Deep State propaganda of the day.
    I think he's being fed by the state and is being paid to publish the videos. Just so you know which ones,
    the Zeihan videos I recall were all saying how Ukraine was going to retake all their territory from Russia.
    Maybe they will in 20 years, but he was talking about them doing so in a month (at that time), not 20 years.
    I have no respect for Zeihan based upon those published videos.
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  • Posted by term2 1 year, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If Trump gets elected in 2024, he can blame all this on biden and maybe actually get us on the right track finally.
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  • Posted by term2 1 year, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think Putin is getting old and wants a legacy and doesn't want to admit defeat. But both he and Biden have made terrible errors with this war, and they both need to admit it and stop fighting. Its a useless war, and by the time its done there will be no ukraine left.

    My company buys a lot from china, and I have to say that most of the peoplewe deal with in China are young people who look like 12 years old, but are probably no more than 21. Zeihan is a bit sold on himself and his cocky attitude, and it makes me trust what he is saying about China and how they cant do anything about the effects of demography, I look at the unbelievable growth and vitality the Chinese people have shown, and it just seems to me that with that level of adaptability, they will find a way to survive.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 1 year, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The "Big Three" is a separate story entirely. Churchill hated Stalin. And Stalin didn't give a rat's behind for anyone other than Russia, which became very clear as soon as the Russians defeated the Japanese in Manchuria and then bailed on providing military support in the Pacific. And let's also not forget that when WW II started, Stalin and Hitler were allies according to the Ribbentropf Treaty. They invaded Finland and Poland together. It was only when Hitler was stymied by England in the Battle of Britain that he turned his sights for domination eastward again - towards Russia.

    The relationship between Stalin, Roosevelt, and Churchill was always one of a politician (Roosevelt) with all the resources and two military tacticians who needed them. The Russians would have lost the war without the US providing necessary rubber for tires and shoes - they had the steel production and engineering to build tanks, etc. with the Ural mountains between them and the German armies. The problem for the Russians was that Moscow is on the other side of the Urals from the manufacturing base and thus their political capital was unprotected.

    Similarly, Britain would have lost their part of the war without the US supplies in old naval vessels - primarily old destroyers on the so-called Lend-Lease program (which the US forgave) - as well as basic supplies such as food. But let's remember that England still had a formidable navy (which the Russians lacked) and so they still had access to shipping both from the United States and from the colonies in Africa and India and the Far East (Singapore was a hot spot).

    The US had the economic base and it was insulated from direct conflict. England had its formidable Navy which controlled the Mediterranean Sea, and Indian and Atlantic Oceans. Russia had lots of people it was willing to sacrifice and lots of steel. Germany had a robust military culture and history and grievances against England (and France) from WW I. Italy was supposed to be the foil for the UK's navy - but they were remarkably absent, refusing to engage the British navy despite having superior numbers and local bases. Japan was similarly a military culture with larger ambitions which had been stunted by the Americans.

    I think it's pretty remarkable that the Allies won, to be honest. A few major battles or strategic decisions different and the Axis could very well have forced a negotiated treaty at a bare minimum. The Battle of Britain, Midway, Dunkirk, Crete (the Germans tried to invade and cut off the British in the Med) and a handful of others (decision by Goering to go for jets instead of heavy bombers) all dramatically shaped the course of the war.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov 1 year, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good points, especially regarding internal national dependence. The shift I'm thinking of toward increasing internal dependence isn't from a national collapse, but from a gradual shift in international trade as a result of demographic and technology changes.

    Check out the YouTube channel Zeihan on Geopolitics, and Peter Zeihan has some very good discussions on what the impact of the demographics of many countries are going to have on the future of international trade. China, as just one example created a disaster for itself with its "one child" policies, and over the next decade will see a decay in the number of working age adults.

    We definitely agree on the disaster that is the open border policy supported by the increasingly extreme left wing Democrat party. Unless we get a handle on it, they will discover too late what a huge mistake they've inflicted on this country.

    Putin is trying, far too late, to shift the Russian demographics by encouraging larger families. However, he seems oblivious to the fact that he's draining the supply of reproductive age males with his insane Ukraine "special operation." The KIA ratio in the latest Russian offensive is a mind boggling 20 Russians killed for every single Ukrainian killed. Unfortunately, Russia finds itself in the hands of a madman with delusional visions of restoring the grandeur of the Russian empire.
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  • Posted by term2 1 year, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Our money is going to be destroyed at some point, and it will be too late to save our wealth. I am VERY concerned about this. Bitcoin is trash and would be made illegal. Gold will be confiscated. Assets can be confiscated through wealth taxes. The only thing that's safe is to have a compound somewhere either isolated in the USA, or in South America somewhere, and set it up to be self sustaining somehow.
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  • Posted by term2 1 year, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I dont trust the left at ALL. They lie, manipulate, twist the facts to suit their narrative. I don't know what Trump was supposed to do. He called the capitol police, but you couldn't expect him to actually stop a demonstration. I wouldn't have left the oval office myself if I were president.
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