What's a Democrat? Good question

Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 2 months ago to Government
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What's in a name? Would any other flower named Democrat smell as ... (pardons to Shakespeare)

The real problem Democrats have is that they're not even Democrats anymore - they're socialists.


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  • Posted by woodlema 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    NUMBER: 1593
    AUTHOR: Benjamin Franklin (1706–90)
    QUOTATION: “Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”

    “A Republic, if you can keep it.”
    ATTRIBUTION: The response is attributed to BENJAMIN FRANKLIN—at the close of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, when queried as he left Independence Hall on the final day of deliberation—in the notes of Dr. James McHenry, one of Maryland’s delegates to the Convention.

    It is apparent that after 227 years we have been unable to "keep it."
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  • Posted by NealS 10 years, 2 months ago
    How could anyone possibly like to even be around people like Wasserman Schultz? She is one nasty (person). The nasty garbage and meaningless rhetoric that comes out of her mouth is what this country is coming to. I would be embarrassed to even know her. I hope the American people put their smarts on when they vote in 2016. It's time for a change, perhaps a government reset button that works.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 2 months ago
    It's easier to point out what a Democrat is not. Once you understand the following point, everything else falls into place and all that changes are the descriptive nouns. "A Democrat has core values and makes proposals without any regard to collateral damage." That's really al you need to know. I have never been made aware of any Democratic sponsored idea that was not screwed up somewhere either down the road or immediately upon implementation. At least with Republicans, one or two of their proposals, ideas or laws make some sense every now and then.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Dems are just a coalition of misfit toys... Tree huggers, unions, green-energy, the auto unions, guilty-feeling celebrities, etc. This is why their conventions dissolve into angry mobs - how do you reconcile the Sierra Club with the Teamsters? Most of the candidates are liars by nature because they have to get votes from each of the 3 dozen dysfunctional groups and usually is a different answer to the same question from each of them.

    Conservatives, while different from each other, share common core belief of limited government. Developing a platform is not difficult, because there isn't a lot of variation of core belief.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Which is why we have a Republic... but unfortunately... too many years of mob-rule at this point.
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  • Posted by bryansapen 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I guess I was thinking of the conservative republicans, today's Republicans in office are the democrats of the early 20th century... the rank and file republicans/conservatives are more like Andrew Jackson.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    " The disconnect between Objectivists and the Vulcans was in that the Trek writers insisted on injecting altruism as a necessary element of survival for a logical society."
    Was there an episode that states altruism is part of the Vulcan philosophy?
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  • Posted by GaryL 10 years, 2 months ago
    Democrats are individuals I meet who are destined to remain acquaintances and never become friends.
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  • Posted by Ben_C 10 years, 2 months ago
    At the recommendation of a fellow Gulcher I read "The Forgotten Man." This text clearly defines the history of the transformation of the Democratic party into the socilaist party it is today. There was a road trip by many of the soon to be adminstrative people to visit Stalin in Russia prior to the election of Roosevelt. Hmmm, can't find this in Common Core history textbooks.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Today's Republican Party pretends and expounds endless lies to promote the party as defenders of individual liberty. The GOP is the party of big banking and defender of the federal reserve bank. Andrew Jackson would take issue with your description.
    I agree that Democrats once stood more for liberty and now stand for lootery.
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  • Posted by strugatsky 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oxford dictionary definition of "democracy":
    1. A system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.
    2. Control of an organization or group by the majority of its members.

    Theocracy and Deocracy can co-exist, if the majority desires it. Anyone can become a mullah and be elligible for office. Likewise, although theoretically an independent candidate can run for office here, in practice one needs to be a member of a Party.
    HOA's are run by the rules established by the majority. As a dissenting minority, one has no voice or protection at all. Perfect democracy.
    Freedom of speech is not in the definistion of a "democracy." We have learned to associate it with democracy, but that is an incorrect association, as it happens to be unique and protected only by the federated constitution of the republic, not by the inherent nature of a democracy. Political correctness and other forms of speech and freedom limitations are an attack at the republican constitution by the democracy. [I use the term "republican" in total disassociation with the Republican Party].
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  • Posted by peterchunt 10 years, 2 months ago
    We tend to compartmentalize people on both sides. All Democrats are bad for instance. But this ignores the bigger subject. First we are all Americans, and I don’t doubt that if our country was invaded, everyone on all sides (except the pacifist who are also on both sides) would defend this country. I certainly disagree with the philosophy of most Democrats, and they certainly don’t belong in the Gulch. I recall reading about how 54 Democratic Senators attempted to rewrite our first Amendment. Not one stepped out of the lock-step to say this is wrong. We all here in Galt’s Gulch recognize that our Bill of Rights are sacrosanct. Some say that they were created by God, and while I don’t believe in a higher power, these rights should be considered untouchable. There are some good people who vote Democratic, and I prefer to treat them as misguided, not bad people. I support abortion (a left wing idea), but that doesn’t make me a Democrat, because the vast majority of their philosophy is anathema to me. My reasoning on Abortion is strictly right wing (keep the government out of my body, it is not their right to tell me what I can do with our bodies). We can respectively disagree with their philosophy, and definitely keep them out of the Gulch, because they don’t belong there.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 10 years, 2 months ago
    While reading the article, I regarded a "lack of a cohesive narrative" as being the problem about the "core principles" of the Dem the control freaks party with a curled lip.
    It is not the PR problem. It's all the bad outcomes.
    Socialism sucks.
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Uh, Iran isn't a Democracy. It's a Theocracy. The Mullah's run Iran - you have to be one of their approved candidates to run for office there.

    Home Owners' Associations aren't democracies either. I live in one as do several of my siblings. You either pay their fees and put up with their rules or they can force you to move.

    And what is a democracy without freedom of speech? A farce. If true freedom of speech doesn't exist, neither does democracy or representative government, but some bastardization or diluted version of such.
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  • Posted by woodlema 10 years, 2 months ago
    "A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine."
    A Democrat is one who believes this.

    “Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.”

    ― Benjamin Franklin
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 10 years, 2 months ago
    Group labels have lost their original meaning, thanks to the destructive efforts of those who seek to find creative ways to possess the most power in society. Labels are used to confuse individuals about their right to exercise their natural freedoms.

    In a human society composed of rational individuals, a form of Anarchy would work, within which the exchange of goods and services would find an optimum level. Unfortunately, there appears to be a serious lack of rational beings in today's society.

    Humans are social creatures that take pleasure in the company of others of their kind. Power seekers learn how to manipulate that desire for pleasure as a means of subjugating other individuals, depriving them of some degree of the individual's natural rights.

    Rejecting all of the political and ideological labels, since there are myriad conflicting definitions of what each label means, presents a logical challenge. In theory, one who believes he or she is an "Objectivist" (I hazard using even that label, but it is a necessary element of designating a Rand-thinking individual) comes close to one of the famous "Star Trek" series Vulcans, basing their actions on what makes logical sense for the best outcome for themselves. The disconnect between Objectivists and the Vulcans was in that the Trek writers insisted on injecting altruism as a necessary element of survival for a logical society. That was an unfortunate result of Hollywood writers obsession with a vision of a perfect Socialist society.

    The term "Democrat" is, I conclude, as meaningless as any other label plastered on a group.
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  • Posted by strugatsky 10 years, 2 months ago
    Democracy is a very much misunderstood term. We need to point out to the uneducated that Iran is an example of democracy and when our government set out to export democracy to Afghanistan and Iraq it gave them Sharia constitutions. Home owners associations are another example of democracy - a breeding ground for little Nazis. It would take considerable education for people to realize that the rule of the mob is not the most desirable form of government. It is, however, ideal for wolves and sheep.
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  • Posted by $ rainman0720 10 years, 2 months ago
    I don’t even know where to begin, but two things jump out.

    First: “The problems are not with the "party's core beliefs...". Really? With the shoving of ObamaCare up our...er, I mean down our throats, and before the 2014 midterms listening to some Dems defend it and watching others run like hell from it, I think the public has a pretty good idea of what the party’s core beliefs are. And the public wasn’t impressed. So they solidified the Republicans’ hold on the House and gave them control of the Senate.

    Second: “Democrats lack a ‘cohesive narrative’ and need to find ways to help their party explain bedrock values such as fairness, equality and opportunity.”

    Let’s look at those in order.

    The government steals about 1/3 of the income I earn every 2 weeks, wasting some of it, and giving a bunch more of it to people who haven’t earned it. And the more I earn, the higher that stolen percentage becomes. Just how in the hell is that fair to me? Why doesn’t something have to be fair TO ALL PARTIES before it can be defined as “fair”?

    And I have no earthly idea how anyone would define equality. It’s another one of those nebulous, cloud-like subjective terms that Dems love to throw around.

    Would I expect two equally qualified, skilled and experienced craftsmen doing the same jobs get paid an equal salary? Maybe, if they were working for the same company in the same location.

    But what if one of them was earning $85,000 by doing it in Los Angeles or Chicago or New York City, and the other was earning $50,000 by doing it in Seymour, Indiana? If their salaries in relation to their cost of living bought them the same things, and they both had comparable houses, cars, etc., wouldn’t you say that they’re being paid equally even though one is making almost twice what the other one is?

    And I think the only opportunity that Dems/Progs/Libs/Socialists love is an opportunity to expand government. I truly think liberalism/progressivism is a disease. I’m a conservative; if I don’t like a particular restaurant, I won’t eat there. But if a liberal doesn’t like that restaurant, then he thinks nobody should be able to eat there. I mean, if he doesn’t like it, then nobody else can like it either, can they?

    There is something so sickeningly condescending about liberals. Yeah, I know I’m making a generalization. But I think it's a safe and fair generalization. As a group, they really think they know what’s best for not only themselves, but also for me, and for everyone else.

    Sorry. Took me this look to find my “off” button.
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  • Posted by bryansapen 10 years, 2 months ago
    In the history of the Democrats, they started with Andrew Jackson and their support for individual liberty... the Democrats today (those in Washington) are only Democrats in name. They call themselves progressive liberals which I think is an oxymoron since liberal comes from the root liberty and with the Obama/Reid/Pelosi crew, liberties have shrunk big time. From Wikipedia... "They (the Democrats) viewed the central government as the enemy of individual liberty. The 1824 "corrupt bargain" had strengthened their suspicion of Washington politics....Jacksonians feared the concentration of economic and political power. They believed that government intervention in the economy benefited special-interest groups and created corporate monopolies that favored the rich." They're far from this today... in fact, you can say today's Republican is yesterday's Democrat.
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