Personally, I think women should only be allowed in front line combat positions if they can meet the same physical standards as men. Naturally this will create a disproportionate number of men to women, but when there's a job to do and people's lives are on the line, it would be unwise to lower the standard for anyone.
But for something like a combat pilot, where success is purely a matter of skill and one's physical size and strength don't particularly matter, then yeah, full equality all the way (same goes for other non-combat positions).
so, 1. if women are excellent pilots, we don't need men. 2. why don't women belong in combat? The reality is, women end up in combat for better or worse. In a civilized society, the fewer involved in war the better, in general. women physically tend to be not as strong. many problems along that line. for pilots, not so much BUT in warplane the limiting feature is the pilot. 3. are spies not a part of the military? hmmmm. I'll bet you dollars to $1 cheeseburgers that the best ones have been women which is why you don't know about most of them 4. your last point is a straw man. One SHOULD have the goal of protecting freedom of a nation. Women and children throughout history have been involved in that fight.
I told you I was no Objectivist. What, that news article was supposed to sway me?
If you show me a news article of people setting themselves on fire, would you expect that to give me a positive attitude toward self immolation?
Women don't belong in the military, let alone combat. I don't care how good they allegedly are. Any nation willing to put its females into harms way *as some mythical, non-existant "right"*, or any way other than as last ditch to save the children, not only isn't worth enduring, it won't endure for long.
I can see the world of the 22nd century. If any males exist, they will be living in breeding quarters, because that's all the role they'll have. Women can have the babies, build the businesses, fight the wars, and have a nice game of chess in the evening; nobody needs men.
The only reason for war is to provide for and protect the females and children of a society. If a nation is going to put them on the front line because they are STUPID enough to think it's a game, that nation is already too far gone to be saved. Let the barbarians have it and start over.
Okay, here's something interesting for you, maybe.
communal showering takes place in Robocop? It also takes place in "Starshit Troupers", the movie made from Heinlein's book. In fact, that's the point where I'd had enough of the perversion of the story and walked out... only time I ever walked out on a movie.
So what do "Robocop" and "Starshit Troupers" have in common?
The leftist scumbag Paul Verhoven. If you ever see a news report that someone was suddenly punched so hard his parents felt it... you'll know I recognized him on the street.
Battlestar Galactica didn't have women in the military, iirc, until the 2nd or 3rd season, after they had an epidemic that left many of the male pilots unable to perform.
Strangely, later, when they enounter an out-of-touch Battlestar, that Battlestar has already stooped to using women as pilots.
One of the most powerful leitmotifs in "Battlestar Galactica" is military men and women showering together: rape is not a foregone conclusion, but unfortunately peculiar to our species of humanity.
(And communal showering also appears in the original "Robocop.")
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But for something like a combat pilot, where success is purely a matter of skill and one's physical size and strength don't particularly matter, then yeah, full equality all the way (same goes for other non-combat positions).
2. why don't women belong in combat? The reality is, women end up in combat for better or worse. In a civilized society, the fewer involved in war the better, in general. women physically tend to be not as strong. many problems along that line. for pilots, not so much BUT in warplane the limiting feature is the pilot.
3. are spies not a part of the military? hmmmm.
I'll bet you dollars to $1 cheeseburgers that the best ones have been women which is why you don't know about most of them
4. your last point is a straw man. One SHOULD have the goal of protecting freedom of a nation. Women and children throughout history have been involved in that fight.
What, that news article was supposed to sway me?
If you show me a news article of people setting themselves on fire, would you expect that to give me a positive attitude toward self immolation?
Women don't belong in the military, let alone combat. I don't care how good they allegedly are. Any nation willing to put its females into harms way *as some mythical, non-existant "right"*, or any way other than as last ditch to save the children, not only isn't worth enduring, it won't endure for long.
I can see the world of the 22nd century. If any males exist, they will be living in breeding quarters, because that's all the role they'll have. Women can have the babies, build the businesses, fight the wars, and have a nice game of chess in the evening; nobody needs men.
The only reason for war is to provide for and protect the females and children of a society. If a nation is going to put them on the front line because they are STUPID enough to think it's a game, that nation is already too far gone to be saved. Let the barbarians have it and start over.
http://www.xtimports.com/text/watchman00...
http://www.xtimports.com/text/watchman01...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013...
communal showering takes place in Robocop? It also takes place in "Starshit Troupers", the movie made from Heinlein's book. In fact, that's the point where I'd had enough of the perversion of the story and walked out... only time I ever walked out on a movie.
So what do "Robocop" and "Starshit Troupers" have in common?
The leftist scumbag Paul Verhoven.
If you ever see a news report that someone was suddenly punched so hard his parents felt it... you'll know I recognized him on the street.
Battlestar Galactica didn't have women in the military, iirc, until the 2nd or 3rd season, after they had an epidemic that left many of the male pilots unable to perform.
Strangely, later, when they enounter an out-of-touch Battlestar, that Battlestar has already stooped to using women as pilots.
(And communal showering also appears in the original "Robocop.")