American Cops Just Killed More People in March than the UK Did in the Entire 20th Century

Posted by Zenphamy 10 years ago to Government
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I'd decided to not post every Police killing this last month. I'll just do monthly rates now.

One of my earlier posts on the subject showed that police during the first part of the year were killing Americans at a rate of 3 per day, but during March, they out did themselves again. They're now up to nearly 4 per day.
This travesty has to stop. Arrest us, give us our trials--we don't deserve the Police State's Death Penalty.

"Just last month, in the 31 days of March, police in the United States killed more people than the UK did in the entire 20th century. In fact, it was twice as many; police in the UK only killed 52 people during that 100 year period.

According to the report by ThinkProgess, in March alone, 111 people died during police encounters — 36 more than the previous month. As in the past, numerous incidents were spurred by violent threats from suspects, and two officers were shot in Ferguson during a peaceful protest. However, the deaths follow a national pattern: suspects were mostly people of color, mentally ill, or both.

This high number in March increased the average for police killings from every 8.5 hours, to nearly 1 police killing every 6.5 hours in the US."

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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree. You can find the same article on several other info sources than 'Think Progress'. It just happens to be the first one I ran into. This is not about blacks and racism, other than the fact that it seems that blacks seem to draw a lot more street contact with cops than whites. But there are a significant number of whites in the numbers.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    More citizens killed by cops on American streets than killed in a 14 year war (the slaughter in Iraq you refer to)? That doesn't indicate a little 'overkill' to you? What would it take--your own kid getting killed by a scared, over militarized cop.
    I might suggest that you are no Objectivist and fail to understand the rationale of non-initiatory force. These killings were not running gun battles, (a significant number were un-armed) with roving banditos and don't include the guy choked to death for selling 'loosies' or the 96 year old man killed with a taser.
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  • Posted by $ Terraformer_One 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Check out:
    http://peacekeeper.org

    I came across this when following a link to discover live-streaming video recording apps for a 'smartphone'.


    EDIT: describe PEACEKEEPER using the explanation from their website.

    The Peacekeeper emergency response app helps you protect your home and community.
    Create networks of friends and family to guard your neighbourhood from fire, theft, medical emergencies, and more!
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    And cops have to be willing to enforce all of them, or they can't get the job.

    Yet the oath puts the Constitution first, and orders second. One hopes a few who actually believe that will join the force soon.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I too am skeptical of "ThinkProgress" because they are lefties. But their main mistake is to assume that only (or mainly) blacks are the targets of unjust police actions. I'm sure for a long time that was true. But with militarization has come a new set of ROE that means the gloves have come off for everybody.

    It's high time the marketplace started forming protection agencies willing and able to stop the police. We're going to need them soon. In some places we already do.
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  • Posted by tdechaine 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    That's irrelevant. That's like me comparing those when are troops were getting slaghtered in Iraq. If killing are justified in the US, then the count is irrelevant. You haven't shown general "overkill."
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    The shooting of Brown was justified. That department's subsequent use of force to stop news reporting (and their FAILURE to use force to prevent looting) need to be punished pronto by the system, or the system is worse than none at all.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    The first step is cops deciding how they will react to other people. If they decide they're going to shoot people for running away, or for responding with a weapon when their house is broken into, then no wrong can be done to them.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    That comment is irrelevant to this post. I follow Eudamania's three strike procedure on my posts. While I welcome comments that agree or disagree with the issue being discussed, I find unrelated comments to be inexcusable invasions of a posters time to respond to and counter to the principles of a rational mind and logical reasoning.

    If you have comments relative to the subject of the post, please add them. If you wish to discuss the topic of abortion, please make your own post.

    Strike 1.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    You missed my point. Re Iraq and Afghanistan. It's not naive. I'm not discussing how many Iraq and Afghanistan people were killed by their police. I was talking about how many Americans fighting in the war in those countries were killed in combat and related activities compared to how many Americans that were killed by American police during the same time periods. Check it out. I think you might be amazed.
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  • Posted by tdechaine 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    You missed my point. Who said the force was out of proportion? All that was stated is that 3-4 people were kiilled a day and it had to stop.
    Re Iraq and Afgh, that is naive; there, the "police" is a much broader term...many more people are kiilled without any reason.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    No problem. The decision to have an abortion was made by the woman who was pregnant. She exercised her free will to make that decision; just like white women, latinas, asian women, and all other women who had abortions did.

    Jan
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    Posted by blackswan 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    If we're going to talk about "black lives matter (or anyone else's, for that matter)," just consider that, since Roe v. Wade, about 25 MILLION blacks have been killed by the abortion mills, out of something like 55 million in total. That means that there should be at least 65 million blacks in the US, not a mere 40 million. Over the past 40 or so years, that comes to about 600,000 per year, or 50,000 per MONTH. Think over 1,500 per DAY. So, the cops killed 300 or so people in a month, most of whom were engaged in something unsavory, while we're ignoring a really serious stat. If we were to engage in doing some quality improvement, using a Pareto chart, police misconduct dwindles into insignificance compared to abortion, disease, and other causes of death. Why not fix the important stuff, before attempting to fix the insignificant?
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    No, I'm not ignoring that. I don't consider it relevant to the topic of the post. Cops killing Americans on the street does nothing to resolve the murders of one citizen by another.
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  • Posted by blackswan 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    You're ignoring the fact that there were more people killed by criminals than by the police, especially in Chicago.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, and during the same time frame, we've had more Americans killed by police than in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes. No doubt. But if you're a cop, prove it. If you're a citizen in the exact same circumstance, you're going to have to prove it.
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