Why the Dole is a Hole
Let's see. An 80% reduction in moochers by just requiring these people to put in some effort for their "paycheck". And the fact that they wouldn't do it tells me they weren't that poorly off in the first place.
And of course the liberals are screaming bloody murder. Their constituents and power are suffering!
And of course the liberals are screaming bloody murder. Their constituents and power are suffering!
I, too, am against government-sponsored welfare programs - either at the Federal or local level. I don't think it is appropriate to use tax funds to take from one and give to another. My comments were in describing how they are sold to the public at large.
Jan
I see it like one of those puzzles where you change the word, "MOOCHERS" into the word "BUSINESS" one letter at a time...but each letter you change has to make a word that makes sense. (No, puzzlelady, I do not know if these words can do this trick...just found a cute example.)
We can do this, but we have to retrain a population in order to make it work.
Jan
The previous law (in the article) was welfare unlimited - the absolute worst - which allowed the recipients to police themselves. A very bad idea. Now it is at least to the point where it is the giver policing the recipient. A better situation, but not ideal because the giver isn't using their own moneys, but those taken from taxpayers. The best solution is where no taxpayer funds are being used at all - where all "welfare" funding is done by private charity. That allows for each to exercise conscience as they will without being coerced into supporting another's lifestyle or habits.
Many years ago when I lived in Atlanta, the charity hospital instituted a rule that patients would have to pay 50cents for an ER visit and $1 for hospital admission. They had to rescind the rule; people rioted in the streets! Disgusting.
These will be the same idiots who riot and raid stores when a real emergency strikes. Glad I live out west. If they tried to get into my shop, they'd be talking to my shotgun.
Keep that shotgun handy
A phrase from "Men in Black" comes to mind: "You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands."
Of course, the alien's rejoinder doesn't exactly bring me confidence... "Your proposal ... is ... acceptable."
I was the time of the post thinking it was 24 hours per week, not per month. Which is to little to create the upward spin of self confidence that would come for a person doing nothing to start doing something, and develop a desire to do more for themselves.
I do not understand your comment however. I agree no one would work for a negative return. These people are being required to do community service for a return. How is that a negative return?
Its a good move towards (although way to weak) getting people to develop a desire to be something and not sit around doing nothing. The fact that nearly 80% dropped off when the simplest step to keep the income was 24 hours a month of community service shows that they did not want what they had if they had to "Work" for it. Perhaps proving my rather optimistic view of how people would react wrong. Only 20% will grow and become better from this, the others are likely to turn to a more direct form of thievery for the work they are now required to perform.
Even if that number is accurate, I can't do it. One becomes a thief or lives on less than those that are legal thieves. I still choose to be honest and so do a very large number of Americans. What a shame to put people in such a position to have to choose between honest work and a better life by theft.
Apartment 1200 - 1500
Utilities 400
Food 400
WIC 100
Med 500
Cable 30
Cell phone 30
Home phone 25
Car repair 50
Entertain 75
Clothes 100
Child care 1500
Additional $ for children 500
I agree and support your desire to be a human being, but the parasites multiply at a much faster rate than humans, and they vote!
Now it may just be that things are cheaper in UT than VA but you can get a very nice place for 1200. I mean that would rent out my rental house and still leave 200 left over. Its 1800 square feet, or about double the size of the average apartment in Germany.
I do not pay 400 for my utilities on my 4600 square foot home.
I am looking at these amounts and even if I was ok with welfare, which I am not, they are excessive.
Cable, Really? I mean TV is such a need. /dripping with sarcasm
$500 a month per child, man that is a kings ransom.
I have a family me, my wife and 4 kids. I was jobless for a bit and lived off savings, picking cherries and a few other seasonal jobs that did not interfere with my ability to take a good job once I found one. We lived on the equivalent of about 20k a year during that time.
The feds pay way to much. I never checked into it. I had a first thought about taking unemployment cause I paid into it, but never intended to use it. Even with that, I could do it without taking it so why should I do it? I do not have the mind that can understand the people who do so.
Personally, I don't have a problem with drawing unemployment insurance when needed because you've paid for it, but even here it was designed for 6 months, but often extended to almost two years. This country is on a completely unsupportable path; it will collapse just like the Soviet Union did - under its own weight. I am just amazed how law abiding and docile the American sheeple have become - Thomas Jefferson would have been heading a revolution by now.
And people wonder why we have a stagnant economy and government keeps wanting to raise the tax rates!
The worst thing, in my opinion, that anyone can do (in this respect) is to fall for this "donation" spiel and feed multiple levels of parasites.
If the first number is pegged at that level of income required merely to survive the second becomes the entry level to do more than survive..
At present there's no incentive to work following the standard model. Especially not to support moochers and looters. Now if one can do both???? Explains a lot about the popularity of lottery tickets.Or buying sow belly futures.
She was shocked when I told her how it works here in the US.