6/1/2015--The Counted: People killed by police in the US, During 2015 = 470
Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 11 months ago to Government
The Guardian has compiled a unique and detailed, searchable, and interactive database and presentation of Americans killed by Police this year (470 through 6/1). There are other sites that are out there gathering information from citizen volunteers, but this one by The Guardian offers more detail and info in one place than any other I’ve seen. For those interested from either side of the issue, I highly recommend checking it out.
Needless to say, since my last post on this topic, America’s police have maintained their nearly 4/day kill rates and for the most part, their DA’s have continued justifying and protecting them from the consequences.
I reviewed one in particular from Salt Lake City last year, just today that is horrifying to watch from the Officer’s body camera. The complete video/audio was just released to the public. You can view it at : http://thefreethoughtproject.com/graphic...
As I viewed this shooting, the first thing that came to mind was the revelation of the 'No More Hesitation Target' story from last year about shooting range targets designed to remove any hesitation in real life street encounters between police and citizens that included pregnant women, mother with child, grade school age children, the elderly, etc. One story can be reviewed at Reason Magazine: http://reason.com/blog/2013/02/25/law-en...
From the article:
“According to a statement the company sent Reason last week, members of the law enforcement community inspired Law Enforcement Targets Inc. to design the "No More Hesitation" series in the first place:
The subjects in NMH targets were chosen in order to give officers the experience of dealing with deadly force shooting scenarios with subjects that are not the norm during training. I found while speaking with officers and trainers in the law enforcement community that there is a hesitation on the part of cops when deadly force is required on subjects with atypical age, frailty or condition (one officer explaining that he enlarged photos of his own kids to use as targets so that he would not be caught off guard with such a drastically new experience while on duty). This hesitation time may be only seconds but that is not acceptable when officers are losing their lives in these same situations. The goal of NMH is to break that stereotype on the range, regardless of how slim the chances are of encountering a real life scenario that involves a child, pregnant woman, etc. If that initial hesitation time can be cut down due to range experience, the officer and community are better served.”
From my memory of the stories about the targets and their use, what I don’t remember reading was how long Police Depts. had been training their officers at shooting ranges in this ‘No More Hesitation Shooting’, or what DHS did with the $2,000,000 worth of those targets that they had already ordered And I don’t doubt that training has a great deal to do with the number and types of un-armed shootings we’re seeing.
From the SLC shooting linked above, I have no doubt that Officer had passed his ‘No More Hesitation’ training class with an A+.
Let me repeat one sentence from the article above: "one officer explaining that he enlarged photos of his own kids to use as targets so that he would not be caught off guard with such a drastically new experience while on duty."
Needless to say, since my last post on this topic, America’s police have maintained their nearly 4/day kill rates and for the most part, their DA’s have continued justifying and protecting them from the consequences.
I reviewed one in particular from Salt Lake City last year, just today that is horrifying to watch from the Officer’s body camera. The complete video/audio was just released to the public. You can view it at : http://thefreethoughtproject.com/graphic...
As I viewed this shooting, the first thing that came to mind was the revelation of the 'No More Hesitation Target' story from last year about shooting range targets designed to remove any hesitation in real life street encounters between police and citizens that included pregnant women, mother with child, grade school age children, the elderly, etc. One story can be reviewed at Reason Magazine: http://reason.com/blog/2013/02/25/law-en...
From the article:
“According to a statement the company sent Reason last week, members of the law enforcement community inspired Law Enforcement Targets Inc. to design the "No More Hesitation" series in the first place:
The subjects in NMH targets were chosen in order to give officers the experience of dealing with deadly force shooting scenarios with subjects that are not the norm during training. I found while speaking with officers and trainers in the law enforcement community that there is a hesitation on the part of cops when deadly force is required on subjects with atypical age, frailty or condition (one officer explaining that he enlarged photos of his own kids to use as targets so that he would not be caught off guard with such a drastically new experience while on duty). This hesitation time may be only seconds but that is not acceptable when officers are losing their lives in these same situations. The goal of NMH is to break that stereotype on the range, regardless of how slim the chances are of encountering a real life scenario that involves a child, pregnant woman, etc. If that initial hesitation time can be cut down due to range experience, the officer and community are better served.”
From my memory of the stories about the targets and their use, what I don’t remember reading was how long Police Depts. had been training their officers at shooting ranges in this ‘No More Hesitation Shooting’, or what DHS did with the $2,000,000 worth of those targets that they had already ordered And I don’t doubt that training has a great deal to do with the number and types of un-armed shootings we’re seeing.
From the SLC shooting linked above, I have no doubt that Officer had passed his ‘No More Hesitation’ training class with an A+.
Let me repeat one sentence from the article above: "one officer explaining that he enlarged photos of his own kids to use as targets so that he would not be caught off guard with such a drastically new experience while on duty."
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Our attention spans are so limited.
Sad. :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FDlcwU-...
As far as the Salt Lake video, the video isn't very clear and doesn't tell enough of the story. Perhaps the officer was a little early in his decision. In any case I'd suggest everyone put their hands up when told to do so by a police officer, or actually anyone else with a gun. These incidents involve a lot of adrenalin, and sometimes the adrenaline takes over, I can definitely attest to that. It's no different than in a combat situation. Sometimes it's better to shoot, or shoot first, than to be sorry or to not be at all.
I see little difference between some of these incidents where the target taunts the cop, compared to where Saddam Hussain taunted the United States. It matters little whether he had WMD’s or not, don’t taunt the man with the gun. You could be dead right. All these things are related these days with the instant media we have. If we hadn’t gone to Iraq, Iran would be taunting even more than they are today. I’m sure glad I didn’t join the Sheriff’s Dept. or move up to supreme commander of our military, I’d already blown up much of Iraq just for their arrogance and threats to other countries. Something, I guess, I learned in Vietnam, kill or be killed.
If we don’t want the police to take control and be able to order someone to put their hands up, then we should let them find other jobs and take our chances on our own. Nothing is cut and dry, and the advantage has to remain with the cops, not the criminals.
The Ferguson effect is in full force and I suspect the unwritten police agenda is to let the bad guys kill off each other with hopefully minimal collateral damage. Proactive policing got them in trouble with The DOJ so the Ferguson effect is the result. But no outcry if a white person is killed. Wonder why?
Criminal activity such as: Making a cash deposit of slightly less than $10K, leaving your secured child in a conditioned, running, securely locked car for a minute or two, having a K-9 "alert" (LOL) near you or your home/car, running (away) if an officer is nearby, growing medicinal herb in 19 legal states, watering you garden more than 2xweek (California), ... etc.
I am sure you have even better examples.
Sounds like the Hegelian Dialectic to me.
As for the numbers presented completely insufficient to draw any conclusions nor were the ones presented given the present climate in the USA enough to draw much interest. Now had you mentioned the rise of federal police departments and their powers in the last 30 years...
As for No hesitation? Wow they got a name for it finally? In our department it was no warning shots, no wounding shots, shoot twice, the 158 grain .38 cal. lead bullets were banned in favor of 39 + P 125 grain SJHP. We used a .357 revolver as it was both stainless and could handle the souped up .38 round. Surprise for some all of that and .357 are all the same diameter. the rest is advertising. so is the .380 round AKA 9mm kurz. Why do police and soldiers fire so many 9mm rounds? Because it takes a lot of them per target but they sound so PC. Unarmed but on angel dust? Better bring Dirty Harry along.
As for insurance risk? Not even apples an organges more like apples and potatoes. Has to do with proven accident rates and their penchant for driving excessive hoursl. Same reason an 18 year old girl pays more insurance than a 40 year old man. Proven accident rates.
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