And think about the owners of small rental properties such as a four-plex. I owned a four-plex and at the four-plex next door was a drug bust. Some authority (law would not divulge to outsiders) seized the whole building. A landlord is practically banned from evicting a drug dealer, and there is little he can do to stop them, but yet is held responsible for someone selling drugs out his property. No wonder people go crazy. After that seizure I got out and sold my four-plex. Total retirement is wonderful, little responsibility to anyone.

Even if the police have cause to think you've committed a crime -- any search should take place during daytime, and not by a SWAT team, unless they have specific reasons to expect armed resistance -- and the mere presence of guns at the location is not enough. Indeed, the average homeowner with guns would answer the door politely during the day, and follow the orders of police; but at night, or if a flash-bang through the window is the first thing he sees, he's going to shoot first and be absolutely right in doing so, regardless of whether the invaders shout "POLICE!" when the flash-bang goes off.

This needs to be added to the Bill of Rights. And the fact that it is needed says something (bad) about our police.

It was not clear what the elderly patients' issues were. In any case, being on marijuana at that expense, or in a nursing home where they put them on heavy duty narcotics and them charge the family thousands is another issue. That too should be illegal, but it is not. Make grannie a Rx junkie, and that is perfectly legal.

Funny? Yes, a confiscated vibrator. What impresses me, however, is the vindictiveness of the prosecutor. Using the law as a cudgel to beat up anyone he wants. I'm impressed by how anti-American this is. In it's deepest sense it violates every intention of the Constitution and the Founders. I could have made it into a 1950s horror film, "The Vibrator That Ate Chicago."

I disagree. He lumped all belief in the paranormal/mysticism as support for Nazism. That's just silly, even though those beliefs are silly too.

This should be the norm, not the exception. I hope all your kids know how to shoot.

Jan

I agree... 'published video' is particularly a pet-peeve of mine. If it was clear 1080p video, it doesn't get published... it's like videos of Sasquatch or whatever, the only thing that seems to turn up is grainy-ass stuff that looks like either a guy in a guile suit, or a car tire (about that much detail), but we're supposed to believe its big foot.

Make that Amerika... 👎💀🙈🙉🙊

+100 if I could!

Badgood.

Jan

Something is usually missing from every story that gets published. Perhaps that's just another method to try to divide us even more microscopically. Incomplete information can make us jump to erroneous conclusions that are completely opposite from each other. Published video is getting to be even worse, we don't see everything we think we see, and usually we hear even less. And all of these issues are brought to the public which just makes matters worse. Back in the day we didn't riot when we disagreed on some "news" story, and most of the time the whole world was not even aware of the incident. Today, one bad decision and the people burn their town down.

In this particular case I'm sure glad it wasn't me whose stuff they took and refused to return or compensate for. I'd probably be locked up for my methods of demanding my stuff back. That prosecutor that threatened the civil suit after it was found no crime took place needs to be investigated, but we'll never get the rest of this story either. It'll go on too long or never get resolved and everyone else will just forget about it. Besides the media doesn’t want to publish good “news”, and the people don’t seem to want to hear it either, it’s too boring.

This is the same lesson we haven't learned in teaching and learning history, much of it is just incomplete and/or totally false information. That's why things continue to go astray, we just haven't learned enough from history that we can actually put to use, mainly because it's false, we ignore it, we twist it, or we just don't believe it. Need I say the expanding differences between "D" and "R", and "L" and "C". Because of this, man is most likely destined to much more dissention, many more rebellions, more of everything, as populations continue to increase. Riots, poverty, discrimination, rejection, even war, are inevitable if we can’t get the complete facts and reveal the whole truth in history. Everyone seems to have an agenda and will do what they need to do to follow it. That’s just my two cents worth, it don't mean nothin`.

.Why in the world does this woman have to mention the vibrator! She actually looks decent...what does she need one for anyway......Wait a minute...they mention 4 children...at least some of which are hers and no mention of a husband......Maybe she should stick with the vibrator!

I'm not disputing that at all.

I'm only saying that I don't think the SWAT busted into her house in the middle of the night because it was the only one painted red on the street or whatever.

If you read my other posts, I don't agree with asset seizure in principle (because it will be abused).

Unfortunately the media has drowned out the original news stories (whatever they may contain) with the sheriff taking her vibrator away from her.

these are broad laws, many under RICO, which give the govt authority to prove you guilty before innocent. The IRS does this as well. are people screaming in the streets? no. they don't want SWAT teams banging in their doors. Fear and ignorance.

No, its not, unfortunately it is the crime, escalation of drug types, etc., that can and often do occur when it's abused. We have a meth-addict in the family that is pretty much 'on the lam' right now with warrants for multiple felony robbery counts (he's robbing pharmacies to get the Sudafed to make his meth with). He started with marijuana.

just try to argue this in other forums. you are shot down with some form of bad argument for bringing up Hitler.

If someone is convicted of a crime, then there should be penalties.

If they are not, then they are innocent under the law and you should not be taking their stuff. It doesn't matter if you think she might have been selling drugs, there is no conviction.

Thought you'd like that. ;-p

that is what Leonard Peikoff published in 1982 with ominous parallel. he is worthy of being the heir to Ayn Rand, since he has been able to see the future as she did.

all charges were dropped. marijuana is not a dangerous substance. Why the overhanded violence?

hear, hear

Seig heil!

Losing a hand was ancient law for stealing stuff in several civilizations.
That still the law in some Muslim countries but that's Islam for ya.
I'm still all for prosecuting the prosecutor though.

LOL... I have over a hundred firearms and a 22 year old that is away at college that grew up with them just fine.

I tried doing some research, but the media is bombarding the Internet with "they stole my vibrator'.. and Smith Creek appears to be too small to have its own newspaper of any kind. The Sheriff's Department obviously deals with a lot of meth, drugs and heroine... it's 50% of their police blotter.

But here's what you need to look at:

1.) She takes care of 5 elderly people that is no-doubt a handful, if it was daisies and chocolates all day, the family would do it instead of the going rate of $5000 to $10,000 a month (which I know from experience). Knocking them out with your medical marijuana is easier than taking care of them, but probably not what the families want. In California, if you can fog a mirror, you can get a medical marijuana card. I'm not impressed that she has one, or that she 'supposedly' is distributing to old folks that have one.

2.) With 6 ounces - far more than you would use for MS, or to load up grandma... Look on the map! St. Clair County is across the road, literally, from New York. Are the marijuana laws the same in New York?

I'm thinking 1 of 2 things... either she was making her job easier by helping Grandma sleep all day (either willingly or by baking it into the brownies)... or she's walking across the border periodically with a bag full of medical marijuana to sell on the other side. Or trading it for her own more expensive drugs she needs (bought in Canada), or whatever.

Either way, there are some details that cause an elected-prosecutor to take a complaint, go after a mother of 4 with MS and the obviously political fallout of that, and take on the case.

She iterated she was 'not bound over for trial'... which means insufficient evidence for trial, not a lack of probable cause, or the lack of a criminal complaint and warrant for search.

However, the search laws are crazy and need to be stopped entirely anyway until they are sorted out... the intent was to sell the Ferrari to pay for the cost of going after drug smugglers, not ripping off the ipads and vibrators from a chick in Upper Peninsula Michigan.

We have also had problems in the past with professional caregivers trying to get info out of my inlaws on their assets... who controls their accounts, one didn't like helping my father in law to the toilet all day so she stopped giving him water to the point that he didn't crap for 2 weeks and was rushed in an ambulance for dehydration.. Another one seemed to cause my mother-in-law's Vicodin to mysteriously reduce by half a bottle every time she came on shift... The in-home care agencies tend to be a scam, they charge a butt-load, but the people they hire to actually do the care doesn't reflect what they are charging, nor is it reasonable enough to not be causing problems (like earning a fair income, etc.).

Maybe I'm inherently suspicious of her, but I still think there is more to this story.

I have a teenager in the house and one that is about to become a teenager. I have guns (GUNS!) in the house that are not locked up (some of them). Should I be raided, arrested, charged with xxx, XXX, etc., (they'll make up whatever charges they want)? Or should I just prostrate myself anytime I see a government official to make sure that I'm on their good side? (do they have a good side? oh, yes, the side that gets paid!).