NSA Surviellance Reform

Posted by rlewellen 11 years, 3 months ago to Politics
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I listened to Barack talk about ending the practice of keeping records of surveillance. I see this as a smoke screen. If they delete records we can't keep track of abuses. As long as they still monitor messages they are still capable of the same abuses. I have often thought that one big danger in this program is that the politically connected have access to business records in the form of pricing agreements , and changes that effect the value of stock or offer unfair competition.


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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    my apologies. Just went back to Amazon and see that I mixed you two up.
    Still haven't taken the bait on the novel recommendation ;)
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Basically, by moving the data to a "non-government entity" that is controlled by the government removes possible oversight from the congress, but provides those in power as much ability to sift through it at their discretion.
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  • Posted by airfredd22 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Re: Hiraghm,

    Perhaps we need to consider that at least on Fox they are not advocating this form of spying on Americans. They are however debating the question and thereby raising issues on both side of the questions. I at least have not seen any Fox people advocating on behalf of the Obama Administration view that all is permissible.

    Fred Speckmann
    commonsenseforamericans@yahoo.com
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  • Posted by cp256 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I DVR The Five every day and have since Beck jumped, but lately I have been having a harder and harder time agreeing with them on anything. There seems to be a "Protect me!" NYC mentality since 9/11 (because they are the obvious #1 terror target) that many of them might not have if they lived in a small city or rural area.
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  • Posted by khalling 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    me too! stunned in fact-almost everyone on the 5 including guttfeld. that was a real shocker. O'Really, and even meagan made some veiled safety comments. some days I can only listen to the judge.
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  • Posted by cp256 11 years, 3 months ago
    What a bunch of waffling hooey! He said absolutely nothing! His fence sitting has become a razor's edge of ridiculousness. If he's not careful, he will vivisect himself.
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  • Posted by $ Genez 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed! I was amazed at the number of so called "conservatives" who jumped behind the massive invasion of rights known as the Patriot Act. Then there were all the praises heaped on law enforcement and the compliant citizens after the boston bombing... That was as scary day to me, listening to the police state tactics being employed and everyone praising it as if it was wonderful...
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, there's always the view from inside the barbed-wire of a re-education camp...
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  • Posted by 11 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's what I thought I just wondered if there was any other way to look at it that I didn't consider.
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  • Posted by dbhalling 11 years, 3 months ago
    Asking Obama to reform the NSA is like asking Hitler to treat respect the Jews rights as people
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