Atlas Shrugged, Part 1 Chapter 7: The Exploiters and the Exploited

Posted by nsnelson 9 years, 9 months ago to Books
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Summary: Dagny oversees the work on the Rio Norte Line with the new contractor Ben Nealy, making decisions and calling for more Rearden Metal. Her progress earned the respect of Ellis Wyatt, and Hank Rearden. James Taggart tries to persuade her to stop using Rearden Metal, and then she leaves after learning of a surprise debate with Bertram Scudder. She finds a small diner, warms herself with coffee, and discusses morality and John Galt with the patrons. Dr. Potter of the State Science Institute fails to persuade Rearden to stop or to sell the rights to his Metal. Mr. Mowen refused to make Dagny’s switches with Rearden Metal, and the SSI said more study of the safety of Rearden Metal would be good. Dagny met with Dr. Robert Stadler, of the State Science Institute, but failed to persuade him to publicly correct the SSI statement. He described his competition with Hugh Akston over d’Anconia, Danneskjöld, and John Galt. Dagny finds James, and decides to break off from Taggart Transcontinental and finish the Rio Norte Line herself, and call it the John Galt Line. Dagny asked d’Anconia for an investment, but he refused, and she condemned him as being on the side of the moochers and looters. Instead she raised most of the money from others, and Rearden agreed to invest the remainder. Rearden dealt with a delayed copper shipment. His Mother met Hank at work to try (unsuccessfully) to persuade him to give a job to Philip. Rearden agreed to help Mr. Ward with an order of Rearden Metal, when Gwen Ives (age c. 28) informed them that the Equalization of Opportunity Bill had passed.

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  • Posted by broskjold22 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Lots of people on the left and even some on the right like to say that Ayn Rand's work is fiction so how can it be realistic. However, this exact plot thread regarding the Reardens is so characteristic, it's spot on. Hank Rearden's part describes a friend of friend and his mother and brother without error, in perfect detail. Ayn Rand's fiction is based in reality!!
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Okay, I see. Yes. But you don't need to find the contropositive, and it doesn't matter what we know about X. We know A, so we know "A or X," so we know "!A --> X," and we know non-A, therefore we know X.

    Right?
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Interesting. Why is your Premise 1 blank? And does your "!A --> X" translate to "if A then X"?

    And we do know X is true, because of Premise 2: non-A. Right?
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm probably misunderstanding the example. Are you saying this:
    Premise #1:
    Premise #3: A OR X
    From this we can find: !A --> X. We can find the contrapositive of this: !X --> A. But we cannot tell whether X is true.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sure, I'll try, though I don't have much experience trying to teach this....

    Premise 1 (P1): A. [just affirming any given proposition, called A].
    Premise 2 (P2): non-A [just denying that same proposition; this is called a contradiction].
    Premise 3 (P3): A or X [this should be obvious: if A is true, which we have affirmed in P1, then we can also say, "A or X" is true; regardless of what X is, or whether it is true or not, we know that A is true, so we know that "A or X" is true].
    Premise 4 (P4): if not A, then X [this is simply another way of saying P3; "A or X" can be rephrased as "If not A, then X"; because those are the only two options in that premise].
    Conclusion: therefore, X [Modus ponens is logical shortcut for this: If A, then X; A; therefore X. In this case, we have non-A, but it is the same pattern. If non-A, then X (which is P4); non-A (P2); therefore X].

    There are different ways of showing this paradox, but this is the one that I learned and makes sense to me. Does it make sense to you? If not, tell me where I lost you.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You'd be skipping steps (e.g., there's no contradiction unless you affirm the first two premises; and where do you get X except by addition in premise 3?). I'm skipping steps too. It depends on what you think is obvious to your audience. I suspect you have more logic training than I do, and so you see these steps as superfluous?
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  • Posted by VetteGuy 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hi nsnelson,
    I'm afraid you lost me on that one. I don't have any formal training in logic (or latin). Any chance you can give an example of the premises leading up to the green unicorns, so I can join in the fun?

    Thanks,
    VG
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Here's a fun way to ridicule logical contradictions: if you affirm a contradiction, you can prove anything (and so, nothing). Here's how: the Paradox of Valid Contradictions (where A and X stand for any proposition).

    Premise 1: A.
    Premise 2: non-A [contradiction of P1].
    Premise 3: A or X [addition to P1].
    Premise 4: if not A, then X [implication of P3].
    Conclusion: therefore, X [P2, P4, modus ponens].

    So given any contradiction, I just proved X. What is X? It could be the proposition that there are green unicorns on Mars. Given a contradiction, I can prove anything. I can prove it validly. That doesn't make it true. Why not? Because contradictions do not exist.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Perhaps good advice for investing generally. Don't invest in a deal where the lead investor is not as committed as you are. Invest your own money if you want to recruit partner investors.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago
    Rearden’s mother: “You must give him [Philip] a job.”
    Rearden: “I hire men who produce. What has he got to offer?”
    “He’s your brother… He needs a salary, so that he’d feel that he’s got money coming to him as his due, not as alms.”
    “As his due? But he wouldn’t be worth a nickel to me.”
    …. “You’re the most immoral man living – you think of nothing but justice! You don’t feel any love at all! … If you loved your brother, you’d give him a job he didn’t deserve, precisely because he didn’t deserve it – that would be true love and kindness and brotherhood. Else what’s love for? If a man deserves a job, there’s no virtue in giving it to him. Virtue is the giving of the undeserved.”
    He was looking at her like a child at an unfamiliar nightmare, incredulity preventing it from becoming horror. “Mother,” he said slowly, “you don’t know what you’re saying. I’m not able ever to despise you enough to believe that you mean it.”
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago
    Rearden: “I don’t ask people to take greater chances on my ventures than I take myself.”
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago
    Dagny: “Dr. Robert Stadler.”
    He [d’Anconia] chuckled, relieved. “Oh, that one? He’s the looter who thinks that his end justifies his seizure of my means.”
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago
    Dagny: “The way you live is depraved. But the way you act is not. Even the way you speak of it, is not … I had to try … But I can’t struggle to understand you any longer.”
    d'Anconia: “I’ll give you a hint. Contradictions do not exist. Whenever you think that you are facing a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong.”
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago
    He [James Taggart] sighed. “All right. Only … only we must be careful about it … We don’t want people to suspect that it’s you who’re still running Taggart Transcontinental. Nobody must know it.”
    “Everybody will know it, Jim. But since nobody will admit it openly, everybody will be satisfied.”
    “But we must preserve appearances.”
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago
    “Disgusting, isn’t it?” he [Dr. Stadler] said. “But what can you do when you deal with people?”
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago
    “Set science free of the rule of the dollar,” he [Dr. Stadler] pleaded.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 9 months ago
    “It was Dr. Robert Stadler who had once corrected a student: ‘Free scientific inquiry? The first adjective is redundant.’”
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