A Surprise Source of Life's Code

Posted by $ AJAshinoff 9 years, 8 months ago to Science
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Good article...there is always more to know, more to understand.


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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not really clarified, just shifted to other things discovered that are equally or even more confusing.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Today is the day when much of my confusion is clarified. That is a great illustration/explanation of the actualities of "creation" as done by man. Thank you, AJ.
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  • Posted by philosophercat 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are spot on when you say we don't see the big picture yet but I believe that we are very close. Its not the details its the integration and that's my work and its fun.
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  • Posted by philosophercat 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Kant's word "noumenal" Plato's word "forms" Any use of the word God. Each word has a definition which at least one and preferably both the genus and differentia denote real parts of the world if not its just gobbledegook. By the way the term I used was "real world" not new world.
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  • Posted by philosophercat 9 years, 8 months ago
    For all of you who are interested in climate change consider a fact mentioned in the article-snowball earth. About 800 million years ago the earth was a snowball, almost all water was frozen except around volcanos and thermal vents etc. Where was life and why did it survive this calamity? I suspect that species evolved very quickly to this strange dark cold world and the genes of the survivors became excess as the world warmed and then overheated many times. The genes are not lost they are stored for when the world changes and they are needed again. Sooner or later we will see I suspect that these "orphan" genes are "survival" genes and as the world warms up in this interglacial period they will ensure the survival of most species quite nicely. There is no reason the genome should be configured just for the world as it exists today after 4.2 billion years of catastrophic change. Think of the mass extinctions and the genes for survival those species must have had especially the little nocturnal insect eating shrews that became man.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Interesting statement. How does language not link to the new world? Anything a human can describe - be that a grunt, a burp, or a tongue click is still a human giving a name, a definition, a label to something. Interesting statement.
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  • Posted by philosophercat 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Language is a unique human creation. Very new very exciting when it links to the real world, very confusing when it doesn't.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    For all mankind has achieved, for all its aspirations, it has yet to truly create anything itself. (someone had to make a quote about that)

    Sure, it has manipulated to a remarkable degree what is already present, even giving it new characteristics, a new form if you would, but is all taking what is already present and shaping it to suit. It has discovered minute processes and mimicked them and still it has not created anything. This is a testament to mankind ingenuity and adaptability and, in my opinion, further underscores that we really don't know, no matter how much we speculate, the big picture at all.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 8 months ago
    Scientists keep trying to find order in apparent chaos. The more they learn, the more puzzled they become. They try to unify something that came out of nothing with properties that sprang into existence without anything preceding it. By and large, the majority seem to persist in the belief that "God does not play dice with the Universe" as Einstein put it. What if God was actually saying, that "There is no unity, no pattern, everything is random. Deal with it." If I were a scientist, perhaps I could express it in an equation. In any case, that would explain everything, including the mysterious gene, dark matter, dark energy, etc. So far, scientists have been unable to figure out lots of stuff in quantum physics, etc. but that hasn't stopped them from utilizing the parts the do understand for the benefit of mankind and best of all, their pockets.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's one of the drums I beat on a regular basis: The unknown is not something far away or requiring expensive particle accelerators to find. The unknown is all around us in everyday objects and activities. Every choice that someone made to create a product we use had alternatives that weren't followed. Open your eyes and look.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Whats remarkable to me is the ceaseless amount of unknown all around and within us.

    "Certain genes, however, seem to defy that origin story. They have no known relatives, and they bear no resemblance to any other gene. They’re the molecular equivalent of a mysterious beast discovered in the depths of a remote rainforest, a biological enigma seemingly unrelated to anything else on earth."

    Remarkably they seem to emerge from Junk DNA is some capacity that defies contemporary understanding and lacks explanation.

    "Researchers are beginning to understand that de novo genes seem to make up a significant part of the genome, yet scientists have little idea of how many there are or what they do. What's more, mutations in these genes can trigger catastrophic failures. “It seems like these novel genes are often the most important ones,” said Erich Bornberg-Bauer, a bioinformatician at the University of Münster in Germany."

    Absolutely fascinating and wonder-filled at the same time.

    You work in a very exciting profession.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 8 months ago
    This article is consistent with the revolutionary changes sometimes observed in species adaptation.
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