Do we want to defeat ISIS?

Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 5 months ago to Culture
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winning. . do we, as a nation, want to win this "war?" -- j
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    One acts as reflector and signal booster for the other the 292 is three ground wires down as a reflector in a full circle one vertical antenna up as the broadcast element. Do a google for 292 field expedient antenna it should pop up some pictures.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 9 years, 5 months ago
    If we have to remove ourselves from the United Nations. Then also remove ourselves from the Geneva Convention for the Sovereighty of our country. We will tell the French and Russians that we will coming in "Rolling Hot" and we will use the tactics of a Civil War General by the name of William Tecumseh Sherman. We will use the most powerful conventional weapons that we have available even if the're just being tested. Make them all mobile with blast hardened armor. Up graded wing of A-10 Warhogs with larger caliber cannons, A wing of Spooky Gunships that will work at night. ISIS would be blasted day and night.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Besides when you ground something or do away with while still useful you can let more contracts to your friends and spend more money to get what won't work and then more still on what does work and to hell with the infantry troops and the taxpayers.
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  • Posted by Technocracy 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Anti-military politicos do understand they cannot eliminate the military. They might need it themselves to enforce something after all. So what they do instead, is weaken it incrementally by changes like grounding the A-10.

    Another example of this is grounding the Blackbird. UAVs take up some of the slack but don't have the same capability. (If Darth Vader had to pick something to fly from current tech, that would be it. It just looks right for that)
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  • Posted by 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    if it were up to me, I would show the usaf, the army, the navy and the
    marines the red-splotched map of Iraq and Syria, marked that way
    to indicate the areas controlled by ISIS, and I would say, "Take 'em out.
    The entire red-marked area. . No prisoners." -- j
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  • Posted by 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    you are not the only one who thinks that. . giving up the a10
    is like severing an arm during a fight. . absolutely stupid. -- j
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Figures. I'd check the Air Farce too. They were never that much on front line combat support except for the A10's and Obama is getting rid of them with no replacements. Once again the grunts are left out in the cold. Army should never have given up the Army Air Corps.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Since ISIS likes to set prisoners on fire,I do not have a problem with..."
    ISIS is the worst role model possible.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Since ISIS likes to set prisoners on fire, I do not have a problem with the USA dropping lotsa good old-fashioned inexpensive "dumb bomb" napalm on a marching ISIS horde or any military position from a heavy bomber flying at an high altitude.
    I read that the Navy got rid of their napalm stockpiles but I don't know about the other branches.
    O'Prissy Sisisy would likely think napalm is not politically correct but Trump or Carson may think otherwise.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Obama claims he's found and is arming "trustworthy rebels" who oppose both Assad and ISIS. Only they're really members of ISIS, and he has to have known this for some time. My guess is he allowed the Benghazi massacre to take place to protect exactly that secret.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The French are being kind and very civilized in their bombing of Raqqa. If it were me JSOWS and FAE's would be the weapons of choice especially if they were dumb enough to mass together in one firesack.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I heard that today down here in taco land.Something about shipping them some large tonnage of ammunition?

    Ahhh well you may you live in interesting insane times. That administration was always big on gun running so it's no surprise.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I suppose that's true, since Obama created ISIS on purpose and is still arming them.
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  • Posted by Tuner38 9 years, 5 months ago
    The Two Prong Attacks of Islam


    A false dichotomy is afoot. The notion that Islam is only composed of “Radical” extremists and the other Muslims are simply peaceful is actually a two prong effort to instill Sharia law by two methods of infiltration. First ,the one that gets the most attention is the bloody acts of killing and maiming witnessed most recently by the attacks in Paris. Here the suicidal fanatics demonstrate to the innocents and the muslim population at large how dedicated and ruthless they can be. Willing to blow themselves up to instill terror in the hearts of the innocents they simultaneously instill that same terror in the Muslims passively going along who dare not speak up against their fanatical brothers acting out the atrocities of Mohammad. This method of spreading Islam has been the strategy of Islamists from the first days of this religion. The objective of creating Sharia law and the killing of infidels, the worldwide conquest of all nations, and the establishment of a caliphate drive this movement.

    Once the terror is established by the fanatics the road is clear for the passive Muslims to make their move by infiltration and non-assimilation into countries primarily of another persuasion. Relying on the altruism and fear of their victims, mobs of Muslims take over by majority as in the town of Poleville Michigan. It is equivalent to a mopping up operation after the blitzkrieg of the fanatics. This follow up movement must be reinforced by periodic acts of violence and terror to reinforce the followers belief that the movement is inevitable.

    Americans and many others have not wised up to this approach and have excused the followers as deserving of innocence. The taking over of pockets of formerly non-muslim areas proves otherwise.

    If you couple this approach with a willingness to lie to promote Islam you have a potent objective that can only be stopped if it is recognized as the devious monstrosity it is. The intellectual defense of claiming islamaphobia when “innocent followers” are accused of compliance to this spread of Islam works well in a country willing to give the benefit of the doubt and turn the other cheek .

    This war is a different war than those of the past. It is not a war of identified enemies with uniforms and national loyalty. It is a war of subversives willing to connive and infiltrate, perform suicidal carnage and simultaneously slither into the population of the unsuspecting in two different forms. One is the fanatic and one is the follower but both have the same objective and only perform differently to obtain this goal.

    The term radicalized has real meaning when the follower becomes the fanatic. Passively infiltrating and avoiding assimilation is a more subdued method so those who want to speed up the process and inspire the followers to comply become who we call “ radicalized” which means they are now of the fanatic class and will do violence to intimidate and strike terror.

    So what is to be done in such a war? First identify the strategy for what it is and realize how attitudes and mores are affecting our ability to counteract the movement. Calling the followers innocent is a major mistake. When the followers do not denounce the fanatics you can be sure they are being compliant. How many Muslims did you see condemn the killings in Paris?

    This logically leads to the need to identify and root out those who are plotting against the people who are innocent. The source of propaganda is wherever the notion of a caliphate and Muslim dominance is taught. These centers whether in America or the Middle East or the Far East must be targeted as seeds of conquest and infiltrated and monitored and/or destroyed. Hiding behind the “sacredness” of a religious temple or sanctuary is only another tool the true Muslims hide behind just as they hide behind women and children in battle.

    Once the enemy knows we are onto their game, the game is over. When they talk we know they lie. When they seek peace we know they seek dominance. When they claim innocence we know they only use a different method to overtake us. When they cry discrimination, we simply tell them we discriminate against all criminal behavior. We need to give no quarter to this enemy that is doing everything it can to overtake us. They think they are being clever but the identification of their methods and connivance puts us in the position of strength they fear. Once they know that we know what they are up to, trepidation will begin, doubt will spread and the cleverness they were sure was undecipherable will disappear. Know your enemy is the first requirement of victory.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 9 years, 5 months ago
    not our job...isolate them...it is the responsibility of the people of the middle east to clean up their own trash....
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    cut to the same length. the single wire radiates off it's long axis that reflects off the counter poise wire and bounces back increasing signal strength int he other directions. turn the whole thing vertically same thing.

    Best thing google 292 Field Expedient Antenna and Field Expedient Antenna Formula. for cutting wire to frequency. This allows for the knot in the end of the wire so it can be suspended from the trees or whatever. FM 23-10 chap 7 if memory serves.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You don't think that we have the duty under NATO, now that the IS has committed (and admitted to) an act of war on French soil?
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  • Posted by 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    another long wire beneath the existing one ....... end-fed
    like the existing one, or grounded? -- j
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    To increase the signal strength of your long wire run another one parallel and underneath it to create a counterpoise or ground plane effect. most are cut to frequency but they usually broadcast at right angles to the length. the other way is a straight jungle antenna made of wire and clothes pins etc. One vertical cut to length for quarter, half, or full wave on the frequency you want three arranged 120 degrees apart from the bottom of the vertical the whole thing held together with sticks or bamboo if you can find it in three side pyramid fashion. it broadcasts 360 degrees then hoist it into a tree or whatever is high. Next is a two long wire one is a ground the other an antenna lead cut to length laid out in a straight line with the leads in the center so ground goes one way and antenna goes the other. Broad cast off the side. We used a wire fence with insulators and cut the top wire to frequency up in the Rocky;s east slope. 90 degrees gave a direct shot to North Carolina. Used a 74B double battery, back pack radio and talked voice to home base.If yo can find an old Special Forces 05B radio operators hand book it will be in those and the chart for cutting wire to freq. If you can do code it reaches further depending on the skip and the Q signals hand book from the ham radio will give you a code to talk to any language in the world...something the newfangled devices cannot do. Morse is not difficult to learn unless you are going for 20 plus wpm which is 100 characters. being a boom boom bang bang kinda guy I was only back up on radios and got away with 12 gpm or 72 characters.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    we strung a long wire inside the crest of the attic here,
    about 120 feet long or so, and it does 40 well -- through
    a heathkit sa2500 tuner. . should be good from here to there. -- j
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Christianity that one was far far too simple. has shed more blood than any other except perhaps secularisms and, I expect, far more than Islam. There's three for starters.
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