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Perhaps I should say good bye now

Posted by richrobinson 9 years, 5 months ago to The Gulch: General
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I live and work just outside of Pittsburgh Pennsylvania. Our Democrat Mayor and Democrat Governor still think it is a good idea to welcome Syrian refugees with open arms. If anything happens and I stop posting I want you all to know how much I have enjoyed the Gulch. Not sure if I am allowed to bequeath my points to anyone??? Tell the world my story.


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  • Posted by Ducky 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You do realize, JohnConnor352, that they are not coming here on their own dimes, right? Are you not at least opposed to us being forced against our will, to pay for them?
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wow...take a breath and tell us how you really feel! I'm up for rangar three!!! And the next non fiction work.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And where the Galt in 16 may be obtained. The last similar I wore was Jack Bauer in 2008 I'm up for an upgrade. XXL and Jack Bauer for VP. Immediate purchase customer available. Notice I'm giving the Gulch Store first crack at my paycheck.
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  • Posted by JohnConnor352 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are making the decisions based upon unfortunate, and obviously unwanted, associations. You are making judgments about specific individuals based not up on any specific quality which they have demonstrated to you, but upon qualities that other people who come from the same country is them have demonstrated. You are judging all Syrians by the actions of a few.
    Even if a majority of the Syrians were active members of terrorist organizations, it is still prejudiced to judge a Syrian you meet based upon anything other than what that individual demonstrates to you.
    Just like there's a great deal of diverse city of thought, opinion, and everything else with in America, there is a great deal diversity among citizens of other countries.
    Nationalism, and by that I don't mean patriotism but the belief that people across a political border are necessarily different because they are on the other side of the fence, is just a relic of the tribal and feudal heritage we have from Europe. The "all of them versus all of us" mentality is irrational and unnecessary.
    People who join organizations or make choices of affiliation, such as joining terrorist organizations, but unions, political parties, religions, etc. are all voluntary actions, and can therefore be used to judge someone's character. You cannot use such unchosen criteria as race or national origin.
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  • Posted by GaryL 9 years, 5 months ago
    Where ever you end up I am sure you will have lots of company and hence forth they shall be known as the good guys!
    I will not be happy until they drag BHO out of our WH kicking and screaming. Lots of governors and other politicians need to be tied to that rope as well.
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  • Posted by Mamaemma 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Using my mind to discriminate and make reasonable decisions is not prejudice. Nor is it racism.
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'll kick your ass! lol. when we left the US, it was not to write fiction. Dale had a non-fic out there and I knew-he had more in him. To this day, I live a simple life and I ask that you take the time to read his work.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Apparently we're not denying all Syrian refugees only the non-Muslims 2.6% in favor of Muslims 97.4% Hold that one Let me switch to another

    Refugees or Immigrants that is unclear."Since the Syrian civil war erupted in 2011, only 53 (2.4 percent) have been Christians while 2098 (or 96 percent) have been Muslims, according to State Department statistics updated on Monday.

    The remaining 33 include 1 Yazidi, 8 Jehovah Witnesses, 2 Baha’i, 6 Zoroastrians, 6 of "other religion," 7 of "no religion," and 3 atheists 04 4.5 %"

    the latest official census produces these figures

    Home > Factbook > Countries > Syria

    Population 17,951,639

    Religions Muslim 87% (official; includes Sunni 74% and Alawi, Ismaili, and Shia 13%), Christian (includes Orthodox, Uniate, and Nestorian) 10% (includes Orthodox, Uniate, and Nestorian), Druze 3%, Jewish (few remaining in Damascus and Aleppo).

    Not included Yazidi, JW, Zoroastrians, Bahai and Hindu not and included

    Most of these are around 87% Muslim 13% other.

    Given the urgency of the situation as depicted by the various governments the rate of immigration to USA of non muslims is woefully short even if statistics were used with Race/Religion as a deciding factor. 13% is far far from point four.at worst and given the comparative ease of
    of vetting the non islam groups a good many will die before the State department gets off it's ass. Of the Islamic population the most affected are the Kurds and some of the 80 or so other small separate from Sunni or Shiites.

    I'm of the opinion the government has taken it's PC or political crap too far and made it a God head instead of just saving lives in jeopardy.
    Just like WW II.

    The only, one and only, way i would differentiate between Muslims and any others which means not difference is asking a simple question. Are you prepared to assimilate into our culture and follow our morals, values, and standards, our laws and our systems? then give a practical exam. Burkas yes or no, Identification photos with the face exposed yes or no. Do you understand and accept that sharia law or the law of the country you left has no legal standing nor do any of the tenets of any religion? Just to name a few. The same can be applied to every other applicant for citizenship or admission to the country.

    I would differentiate in the same way to any and every other part of the world's cultures. If they refuse then politely stamp Denied
    At Request of the Applicant.
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  • Posted by $ Tap2Golf 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    P.S. Actually for the first time in a long time, I agree with the HOReps, "Pause, don't come now. Maybe later, we'll see."
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  • Posted by $ Tap2Golf 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    point for "new donkey" and I will use that one! You are not alone. I also live in a Dem state. I say house them in Gitmo, there is space available...some with ocean view.
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  • Posted by samrigel 9 years, 5 months ago
    richrobinson You will be fine, stay vigilant and keep your powder dry just to be on the safe side.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'd like to buy into your "statistical prejudice" argument, but somehow you remind me of the Native Americans that thought it would be nice to invite some of the first Europeans ashore. How did that work out?

    The difference is the Native Americans couldn't fully appreciate who they were welcoming through the front door. Contemporary Americans don't have that excuse. We can observe 1400 years of Islamic history and study how well they have assimilated into Western Civilizations in modern times. Unless you, JohnConnor352, are a Muslim, they know who you are: dhimmi kafir.
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  • Posted by IndianaGary 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Someone down voted you but I up-voted to get you back to 0 at least. I think your comment is ill informed and you don't understand the existential threat Islam is to human life. The U.S. has been fighting it since the days of Thomas Jefferson; this is just the latest iteration but with nuclear weapons available. They want to take us back about 1000 years of so, and that's just the men; women that want to make property again. You can go back if you like, but I like it here, so I'll fight them.
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  • Posted by IndianaGary 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He's no capitalist. Not based upon the true definition of the term. What we have now is not capitalism.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'll leave plans to the younger folks. At our age, the plan is to survive until tomorrow.
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  • Posted by JohnConnor352 9 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So after I had some coffee I felt much better about the day and decided to check the post. I just can't stay away.
    What we know is that he had a Syrian passport. To date I have not heard anybody provide proof of when he arrived or that he actually pretended to be a refugee. I would have to guess that most of the actual refugees in Syria do not have passports. I mean, how many of them had the means to be able to plan international travel for leisure purposes? I know the process for obtaining an American passport can take months, I don't know about Syria, but I can only imagine that it's worse. A true refugee would not exactly have several months to plan their departure. I am imagining running from your hometown late at night to escape the militants outside your front door.
    Anyway, even if one terrorist was able to use the tragedy of Syrian refugees to enter France, that does not give us justification for denying all Syrian refugees. That is, by definition, statistical prejudice. It is no more valid of a thought process than other forms of prejudice. Each person is an individual, and they ought to be treated as such. One is not forever Damned by one's neighbors or fellow countrymen's actions.
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