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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    it was wonderful for me, too -- since soooooo many seek
    others' approval to feel good about themselves. . it is sick. -- j
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 4 months ago
    escape to the gulch, yes!!! . but escapism doesn't fit
    with loyalty to reality. . a little wine, though....... -- j
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  • Posted by blackswan 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I merely point out that the only people who have a right to ask me for money are my parents, wife and children. If he or she isn't one of them, then NO.
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  • Posted by blackswan 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Roark did escape by being true to his values. If he had succumbed to the blandishments of Keating and Toohey, he would have been milked dry, and had nothing to show for his efforts. His only escape was by refusing to go along.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My very favorite part of all of A.R.'s work. It literally changed my life, because in that one exchange, I realized that the only opinion of me that truly mattered the most, was my own.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Or Venezuela if you live there, or maybe San Francisco or Seattle if you live there. When all those refugees flee from Syria, you know something is wrong. Germany was stupid to take them in for humanitarian reasons.

    I think that the USA should look to refugees that are smart, industrious, rich perhaps, and who will improve our country. Forget that freeloaders, violent muslims, and others that just detract from what we have built here.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Its not my responsibility to "make" others accept reality. I have quite enough on my plate just running my own life.

    I will engage the freeloading bums that ask for money sometimes. I ask them why they think that I should work so they dont have to. That ends the discussion right there.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You got this last statement RIGHT. When things dont work out, you leave (if you can). Trying to change other people over maybe 12 years old, especially in our "democratic"(mob rule) country, is a thankless task and doomed to failure. They need to learn for themselves (although in Venezuela even that doesnt seem to work).

    Life is too short to spend time trying to make people change, just is.
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  • Posted by $ Snezzy 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Toohey: "Mr. Roark, we're alone here. Why don't you tell me what you think of me? In any words you wish. No one will hear us."
    Roark: "But I don't think of you.”
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  • Posted by dwlievert 9 years, 4 months ago
    Discern and deal with reality as you best determine it to be, and then act accordingly in your own self-interest - as best you determine it possible.......
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    yes, I would have also said this-that working at the quarry was a type of "escape." Also, I would add that "escape" and "evasion" are not the same. May be mott in this discussion, but L did not give us context for their question
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In The Fountainhead, there was nowhere to escape to. Roark's courtroom speech and Toohey's harangue to Peter Keating both refer to the dominance of collectivism in the rest of the world.

    Also, in fact, Roark did "escape" in closing his office and working in the quarry. He could have gone to work for another architect - any second-rate shop would have taken him for his skills - but that was no longer possible for him internally.

    When things don't work out, you leave. Simple as that. You don't try to change other people. You do not coerce them, argue, plead, convince, convert... You just go your own way.
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  • Posted by ewv 9 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ayn Rand did not use or advocate escape as a central theme or device in anything. As a consequence of advocating reason and individualism she did support leaving hell-holes like the Soviet Union for something better.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 4 months ago
    Why do you think Rand used escape as a device for plot resolution in Anthem, We the Living, and Atlas Shrugged, but did not do so in The Fountainhead?
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