the Great Collapse is a certainity...read "The Creature from Jekyll Island"...the current Fed is the 4th this country has had...all prior 3 resulted in a financial collapse...the country was primarily agrarian then and weathered the collapse...not so this time...90% of the population will be dead in 30 days or less...except the politicans in their deep underground bunkers...

It's not funny. But...in spite of being warned by many since the beginning of this country; not to mention, this scenario repeats over and over throughout history...it always fails and many good conscious humans die.

We are observing two things...a last ditch hard court press to complete Albert Pikes 3 world wars that end in a Hegelian dialectic one world kakistocracy -[government]; something those that think they should rule over us since the dawn of time want. The second thing; and closer to home, is that those in power seem to be the dumbest creatures in creation, they lie, they are envious and are psychotic in nature and it only gets worse from here.

The first thing is planed by creatures that can not exist on their own and use us to support them...they are not conscious nor human in the same sense we are...it's always been this way and they are always the rule[less] class.
The second is not only a symptom of the making of useful idiots but also those without a mind, without awareness to control the temptations of their own brain lacking the ability to combat the electromagnetic effects of increased solar and cosmic radiation due expressly to the present grand solar minimum, our weakening magnetic shielding, shrinking atmosphere and roaming magnetic poles...all of this has adverse effects upon the human/humanoid brain and seems to follow the fall of civilizations.

It's really up to us, Conscious Human beings, with our heads on straight; to make sense of this and prepare and make sure that this time such things will never happen again. We, the true elite should guide - (not rule) the rest into higher levels of consciousness and permanently subdue those that oppose the consequences of creation by 180.

There have been posters in gg urging the accelerated destruction of the country in the name of 'revolution', with the idea that people will automatically see from the failure what is right and proceed to rebuild in accordance with that. It of course does not work like that. People do not see what is right from not liking the failure they live in.

Government will not stop the decline. What government is and does in any society is a product of its dominant philosophy about the nature of man, his means of knowledge and his purpose, and his relation to external reality and other men.

Reversing the decline depends on spreading the right ideas. Only then can a proper government be instituted in the proper form with the proper functions and purpose. With people believing in sacrifice as the essence of morality, collectivism, statism and various forms of irrationalism like Pragmatism with its opposition to principle on principle, it won't happen.

I couldn't agree more! I have been very reluctant to celebrate much of anything lately. We did the holidays for our children but we have frequent discussion about the state of our country. Fear has definitely started to build in our small farming community.

And now in tonight's news is N. Korea, just like I predicted yesterday !

I just wonder, what "form of government" would (or, being out of business) could stop the Great Collapse. Like it or not, we're headed for NO government, and we'll have to restructure from there... or not.

producers as in the "Objectivist" manner of producers...very limited access to voting...

i am not on the same moral line as altruists...i am objectivist...

a republic where only those who produce vote is critically different...those on welfare or the govt dole would not vote...
the great collapse is coming and will continue to repeat each cycle until you have a form of govt that will not lead to our current state ...and the great collapse is coming...

I agree about democracy, but a republic is not sufficiently different to matter. We need to get rid of all versions of Rulers, and I'm betting the Great Global Collapse will put this and most, if not all, GOVERNments of Force bankrupt out of business

My use of the phrase "...if your desire is to..." was a general "your", not a specific one. I completely agree about never hearing anyone here say that. Sorry for the badly worded comment.

I don't know anybody who wants to see the country in the sorry condition in Atlas Shrugged. I've never heard anybody here say they'd like that.

Your comments remind me of something I've been saying more the past few years. "I hate being right." I, desperately, want to be wrong about 2016 in America.

Well, this will be cured when Sanders, Clinton and McAfee get their universal free college education plan passed, right?

as we circle the drain, the view Of The Drain is improving,
and it might be scaring people. . the encroachments
on liberty are becoming ominous. -- j
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A terror trip ahead.....

The USA is following in the footsteps of the Roman Empire. The country started based on freedom (mostly). There were lots of natural resources, highly motivated immigrants, reasonable weather for growing things (mostly). As time went on, the government took advantage of the trust people had in it, and started becoming expansionist (took over indian lands, fought the mexicans and took over their lands one way or another, ran the mormons out, engaged in the civil war when the southern states wanted OUT. Once we got to the second world war, our country tried to take over the world and be a superpower by stationing troops all over after the war was over. Then there came the policeman of the world phase, where its been continual "wars" costing trillions of dollars and gaining essentially no positives in return (at least the Romans confiscated the gold from the countries they invaded to pay for the invasion).

Now, we are essentially bankrupt, yet still engaging in deficit spending and money printing in a last ditch effort to stay afloat.

Perhaps we can fix this by withdrawing all forces overseas and ceasing the various wars we are involved in. Sticking to defending OUR country, and stopping right NOW all deficit spending. Cutting seriously back on useless bureaucracy and its costs. Cutting the budget 10% per year for 5 years as a start.

This is dreaming however, as its never going to happen at this point given the fact that a majority of people just want to get stuff from the government and have the rest pay for it.

I've seen more of this lately too...this rush to race. Lately, in social media I keep seeing the race of the guys doing the standoff in Oregon being brought up. I'm surprised by that.

I had a recent mind-blowing conversation with a lady of old dino's identical age when she said she would have to become prejudiced if she were to criticize Obama for his policies. She does not agree with libtards by the way.
Guess that's called being convolutedly brainwashed.
I reminded her of MLK saying in a speech that the content of character has nothing to do with skin color.
She said "Oh" and changed the subject.
Just thought I'd throw that in.
Don't know why this post made me think of that.
Maybe "wild ride" has something to do with it.

How one views something is often pre-determined by his/her desired outcome.

If one views the world like so many of the people here in The Gulch view it, then you're right, it is sad. And frightening. (Sorry for speaking for more than just myself. Feel free to blow me up, Gulchers, if I've overstepped.)

But if your desire is to see this country turned into the dystopia that Ayn Rand so brilliantly created in Atlas Shrugged, then we are making real progress. As a country, we're getting closer and closer to what they want, so of course it's positive to them.