Gary Johnson Runs Again: The Best Third Party Option?
Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 3 months ago to Politics
Governor Johnson runs as a Libertarian again... again...
Is he high? Has his memory been so adversely effected that he can't recall his past failures? :)
Okay, all joking aside; Gov. Johnson has some attractive policies. But, does he now have the persona or the persuasive capacity to be a viable candidate, or will he just be seen as a despoiler in the next election?
It seems clear Sen. Paul is not likely to get the GOP nomination. Should he run as a third party candidate? Could/should he join forces with Gov. Johnson, or run against him for the Libertarian party support?
I know some of you will relish a third party alternative, while others will not.
Let the contest begin!
Respectfully,
O.A.
Is he high? Has his memory been so adversely effected that he can't recall his past failures? :)
Okay, all joking aside; Gov. Johnson has some attractive policies. But, does he now have the persona or the persuasive capacity to be a viable candidate, or will he just be seen as a despoiler in the next election?
It seems clear Sen. Paul is not likely to get the GOP nomination. Should he run as a third party candidate? Could/should he join forces with Gov. Johnson, or run against him for the Libertarian party support?
I know some of you will relish a third party alternative, while others will not.
Let the contest begin!
Respectfully,
O.A.
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So right. "The biggest problem is media access."
We must keep pushing and supporting opposition voices to the two major parties until the media can no longer deny their voices opportunity to be heard as widely. The two party system lock must be broken, or at least one of the parties must be brought back to Constitutional principles and restraint. It is this statist establishment leaning of both major parties that must be "crushed and obliterated!"
Respectfully,
O.A.
To me, Gov. Johnson has a great personality, is an excellent speaker, understands and presents the Libertarian platform clearly and sincerely and is a whole lot more telegenic than any of the front-runners in the other two (well, one, really) parties. One major positive is that he can articulate LP policy with complete focus on how it will benefit everyone rather than complaining about how the other policies are harming us. It's hard to hold that course; libertarians have been complaining for decades!
The biggest problem is media access. Lack of access is due to lack of money, AND the media's steadfast refusal to pay any attention at all to 3rd parties, AND the fact that the media would much rather focus on policies that they disagree with than those they agree with. And even when a Libertarian candidate manages to get ballot access and do a big media buy, no news outlet will cover it and no editorial board will pontificate about it. Well, there is the occasional editorial, sometimes even at major papers, and they invariably say, essentially, "wow, these libertarians have some really great ideas; it sure would be fantastic to implement those policies. BUT they can't possibly win an election and Candidate X has 1 great policy position and 2 we can choke down, and we know he's the opposite of what we want on 5 important platform planks, WE MUST STOP EVIL CANDIDATE Y FROM WINNING! (And by the way, Candidate Y has 1 great policy position and 2 we can choke down, and we know he's the opposite of what we want on 5 important platform planks BUT HE MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO WIN.)
It helps that he's a former Governor and that his policies actually proved to be effective. I don't know the details about everything he did as Gov but I'm sure some of it wasn't libertarian. I am confident, though, that in most cases what he did was better than what was being done, in other cases he had no chance of instituting libertarian policies, and in the ones where he was "wrong" he has sincerely changed his views.
As Gulchers know, the LP doesn't fit at all into the left/right, progressive/conservative political model. In reality progressives would agree with at least 40% of our platform and conservatives would agree with at least 40% of our platform, but instead of progressives supporting the LP because they approve of gay marriage, complete legalization of drugs, non-intervention in foreign affairs, no federal abortion ban, and no corporate welfare, they focus on our support of bakeries turning away any customer they choose, 2A, property rights, right-to-work and no civilian welfare. Then the conservatives play the same game. That's how it plays out with the activists and media who funnel "information" to the masses. In the halls of power it's a whole different story. While the lefties and righties have a few definite disagreements they have at least 80% agreement on the proper level of gov't control and on gov't policy itself. Furthermore, even when they disagree with each other, both sides want to stay in power more than they want their favorite policy implemented.
Both sides vote for huge spending increases, huge tax increases, massive expansion of regulatory power, interference in the energy sector (go, go, go solar and ethanol and wind, all of which can never work), more restrictions on gun ownership, more interference with medical care, more corporate welfare (ex-im bank ring a bell?), fatal economic policies, expansion of the military, wider and deeper foreign intervention, it goes on and on. The disagreements are all on the edges. "Let's all have a big row over abortion, gay marriage, and gun control! The "other side's" policies have led to the utter destruction of our society and it will never be restored until the "other side" is crushed and obliterated!"
Here is a link you may find instructive. Gary Johnson on the issues... the good, the bad, and the ugly. :) Depending upon one's political leanings...
http://www.ontheissues.org/Gary_Johns...
Respectfully,
O.A.
I have listened to Gary Johnson many times over the years and he does make a lot of sense on a lot of issues. If the MSM which is so obviously in the pockets of the "two" party candidates would give third party options the time of day perhaps his odds would improve. A lot of young people do support him, so perhaps the younger generations will make positive change as they feel the burdens past statists have unfairly saddled them with.
Respectfully,
O.A.
In the end however, if the Republican party is going to continue to be "stupid" in their attacks on Conservatives, it will be they who will be the owners of their defeat by the Dems. As they say, "Stupid is as stupid does" and McCain is the glaring example of Stupidity!!!!
Cruz will be fine as long as he keeps his cool and let's things play out. That includes with Trump.
Libertarians and Objectivists if they are smart enough, will find the right path that will give us the candidate the country needs for moving the country off of the disastrous course we are currently on. If they cannot, then they will suffer the same fate as the Establishment types. Lost election perhaps a new and reinvigorated party!
Indeed. I remember Goldwater, though I was quite young then and McGovern (8 years later?). It is an interesting history lesson to be considered and incorporated into one's political science philosophy. Rand supported Goldwater, but we never had a president Goldwater did we? :) Still, one must choose their own poison, since there never seems to be a perfect candidate for us.
Respectfully.
O.A.
It is only fair. The progressive socialists have been infiltrating the Democrats for so long they no longer resemble even the party of JFK.
Respectfully,
O.A.
It is always good to hear from you. It is a principled decision. I have high regard for standing on principle. If only more people would do so. I feel as if we are making some inroads with some of the electorate these days. Perhaps some (though probably not yet enough) of the ignorant masses are finally coming out of their stupor.
It would please immensely to feel more confident and optimistic about the future again.
Regards,
O.A.
It does not matter if he does not get elected this time around. The message will be heard, and will grow. Not voting for him because it might take votes from someone else is stupid and insane.
I hear you. I will weigh the amount of statism in each candidate and make the best choice possible when it comes right down to it. The establishment types already have two strikes against them in my book.
Regards,
O.A.
Your comments are worth much. Good analysis.
Respectfully,
O.A.
I concur. There is more to worry about on those fronts from every other candidate in the race thus far.
O.A.
To me, 70% (my guess) of these "Republicans" are either to inept or just plain do not understand their jobs and only wait for their leadership to give them their marching orders. Or, they are indeed pretending to support the republic but in reality are representing a ruling elite in a country that in reality is nothing but an Oligarchy
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