Commonize your Ammo
Posted by jarmans 9 years ago to Going Galt
People who like firearms usually buy many different types. Under an ammunition constrained environment, a vast array of different calibers and gauges would be optimal. However that is also a nightmare under ‘Preppers’ law. I have chosen just a few calibers and gauges to communize on:
.22 – fits both rifle and pistol, carry a lot of ammo and contrary to folk myth, can kill.
.45/9mm – pistol cartridge, been around for over 100 years each so there are billions of rounds out there.
12/20 gauge – hunting and home defense ( I never saw a round from a box marked ‘Target Ammo’ stop when shot at a person) OO-B will kill, # 8/9 shot will make Swiss cheese and hurt them a lot.
7.62x39 – the assault weapons.
7.62x54 – the suppressive fire weapons.
30-.06 – my LOOONG range shooter (1400m)
.22 – fits both rifle and pistol, carry a lot of ammo and contrary to folk myth, can kill.
.45/9mm – pistol cartridge, been around for over 100 years each so there are billions of rounds out there.
12/20 gauge – hunting and home defense ( I never saw a round from a box marked ‘Target Ammo’ stop when shot at a person) OO-B will kill, # 8/9 shot will make Swiss cheese and hurt them a lot.
7.62x39 – the assault weapons.
7.62x54 – the suppressive fire weapons.
30-.06 – my LOOONG range shooter (1400m)
When I said proficient I didn't think of anything like that in my wildest imagination. I meant just hitting the target and trying to get close inside the black.
1.) .22 Rimfire
2.) 12 Gauge.
3.) 5.56 centerfire.
4.) 9mm Parabellum
5.) .45 ACP
6.) .30-06 Springfield.
7.) .38 Special
8.) 7.62x39 (AK ammo)
9.) 7.62x54R
10.) .223 centerfire
11.) .380 ACP
12.) .357 Magnum
13.) .40 auto
14.) 44 magnum
15.) .270
16.) ...
This list has been scientifically researched (complete guess).
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For example, if in a tree stand, would you bend over, put it down on your feet through the stirrups, and pull upward, while trying to somehow not fall out of the tree? I'd rather just pull back on the bow string. That's primarily my point. Keep in mind, it's not the only thing you would have with you - the quiver, supplies, a backpack, camo, maybe a light jacket on, etc.
It may work for some people, and I can't hunt with one here, but its my speculation based on shooting with mine. It wouldn't be my first choice.
I'm thinking of being forced to hunt to eat should there be a huge economic collapse or a similar disaster.
At that point states will be too busy with food riots to worry about solitary hunters.
I want the tools to silently hunt so some large group of thugs won't come and rip off my kill and maybe also kill me.
Thus... the cost of buying high quality ammo isn't as bad as the taxes or shipping that apply to 'anything' so I concentrate on stuff that I can re-use 5-15 times.
The .45 1911 pistol is also exceptionally popular and has been around for over 100 years.
The .380 is becoming more popular and is extremely concealable.
The .38/.357 magnum is used in both revolvers and rifle...quite common and very easily reloaded.
I do practice a form of conformity in my stores, but it's mainly because I get greater value from my time that I do spend.
I keep lots of .22 that I've purchased slowly years ago. I have put untold thousands through my 10-22s, and I have a few revolvers that take .22. I also have a reloading kit that does a fair job of casting new bullet heads and reloading them. It's a bit tedious, which is why I prefer to buy .22 but it is fun around a campfire.
I have similar backpack-sized reloading kits for every caliber I use. A LEE loader and a two bullet mould for the gun I am carrying is always part of what I take with me just in case I get stuck somewhere.
I use .45 across the bulk of my equipment. The black powder revolvers are all .451, my personal semiauto handguns are all .451, even my Thompson prefers a .451. They have a variety of brass that they use, but the bullets I cast for all of them can all be from the same moulds. Granted, not all .45 are compatible, but I don't yet have anything that takes a .458.
I keep mainly .451 guns because I can run a large casting run of one type of bullet and save time over running multiple smaller bullets. I may run two or three moulds at the same time, but I can run at full speed and I don't have to spend a moment worrying that I might mix up a .458 and a .451.
From the .45, I do break out a bit. I've got .309 and .312 for the .30-06 and Mosins, both of which I have tested, but keep the .312s in thier own area to avoid mixup. .356 for the .380's of family members, buckshot molds from LEE and I've even got a shot maker to make new shot in a pinch.
I still buy in new bullets, but having the ability to cast new saves me money when I want to divert funds to a new project.
I use steel traps when target practicing to reclaim most of the lead and buy pure scrap lead whenever possible, which has given me quite a store for casting.
For reloading, I keep the common used ones set up on their own dedicated presses and an extra one that rotates through the oddball sizes that family have. The rifle sizes each have their own rifle press and I've got a MEC-9000g in both 12 and 20. All of the extra presses save me hours of switching time a year and I let trusted friends and relatives use them, usually for a trade of consumables.
Though I still buy in new ammunition, keeping all my equipment at the ready makes it much easier to practice. Run 100-150 rounds through a revolver, drop the brass in the tumbler, clean the revolver, dump the brass in the press and start cranking out new rounds and in about an hour from the start I've got two to three replenished boxes. Add fifteen minutes or so every other session to check brass length and I'm still saving money. All of my personal economy, common group of sizes and trading has saved me more than I've spent on equipment.
Why, because I just might want to!
And ammo is still relatively cheap and plentiful.
I can get 50-9mm for $11 and 500-.22 for $20
You are correct about seeing that at local ranges. The however is that they may have 1-200 rounds (for the most part) at home to go with that weapon. We burnt HUGH stockpiles of the 5.56 in the last 15 years and now training ammo is tight and STRAC is being reduced. Also, the 5.56 has only been around for 50 years now the 7.62x39 has about 30 years on it and 20 million revolutionaries and a couple hundred government. BTW the Israeli liked both the M16 and the AK47, that how the Galil rifle was born.
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