Should parents be forced to vaccinate children before they can attend school?
Posted by richrobinson 9 years ago to The Gulch: General
I saw an excellent presentation last night on the risks of vaccination and health problems including autism. Most States currently require vaccinations in order to attend public schools. The argument being if parents don't vaccinate their kids then other kids are at risk. The problem appears to be the number of vaccines being given at the same time and at a very young age. The speaker made it clear that she was not anti-vaccine but wanted all parents to be able to make informed decisions. I don't have kids so I was never faced with this decision. It would seem logical to allow parents to opt out of many of these vaccines if they wanted. It is possible to get exemptions but it seems the State is making it harder and harder to do that.
Funny way of confirming effectiveness of inoculations .
No one knows what causes autism and even a hint that vaccines could be damaging gives many parents pause and anxiety.
I am disappointed in your " anti- everything conspiracy theorists" comment.
Labeling is a very effective tool used by the collectivist to stifle discussions and form lemming type compliance. For example denier , bigot , racist , often used by the left to name call and degrade an opposing position instead of using reasoning and evaluating differing opinions.
35 years ago, I had a back injury that laid me up big time. Couldn't walk. The nerve pain was horrendous. The primary physician said we'll get to the bottom of this. In the meantime I'll prescribe you tylenol with codeine and an anti-inflammatory medicine. I asked him specifically if they will mix OK. Of course they will, this is a common combination.
Wrong! Within a day, not only was the nerve pain untouched, but now the fluid retention was horrible. My head felt like a blimp and the nausea was awful. I quit taking them and all that went away.
Long story short, after seven specialists later, including a rheumatoid arthritic guy, an orthopedic guy, foot orthotics, you name it. None of it helped. I called the primary guy a final time and asked what's next? "uhh, I think you should try a different modality". I asked him what that meant. "See a psychiatrist". I hung up. See a shrink, right.
Months wasted. And then on a day I was stretching my arms way out in front, and then way back, and then out in front and there was this huge pop between my shoulder blades and I could walk. I went on a 4 mile walk that afternoon, just going "Holy shit, holy shit" A miracle.
That started a long history of total distrust in mainstream medicine and a preference for homeopathic alternative solutions.
With vaccines they don't even ask if there have ever been any bad reactions. Yet, we now know that if a mother has the MTHFR genetic disorder (can only be found with a test) and that mother's child gets the MMR - KABLOOEY! Severe autism. Why? We don't know yet. We just know it happens.
But...these things I talk about...they're just science. And, America and Americans love religion. Just have faith. Believe what you're told. Watch tv. Don't read any books, or anything. You can trust the government... Even if you're the most hard-core right-winger. Trust the government on this one thing.
YES as long as parents are not required nor forced to sent heir children to public schools nor support them with tax dollars.
Nothing could have made me a stronger Objectivist. Soon after I presented data to the NIH at a hearing where there were hired goons to assault people (I'm not kidding - that's a hell of a story) I was laying on my living room floor reading Atlas Shrugged for the first time. I came across this, "In times like these, when their fat little comforts are threatened, you can be sure that science is the first thing men will sacrifice." I couldn't sleep that night.
Children is the second thing they will sacrifice...
Want to guess what that study showed? Go ahead. I'll let you know if you guess right or not.
Objectivism works. Science works. These two have never let me down. And, in this subject I have been to the belly of the beast. There are real problems here that you aren't being told. Want to see a documentary about the CDC fraud? Go see the new movie, Vaxxed. By the way, it's being censored in many cities so good luck finding it.
This point is kind of like saying, "There were deaths due to bullets before war." Yes, but war sure as heck doesn't help. The body reacts. Autism, it appears, is an illness that requires a trigger...an insult.
In addition, only perfectly healthy children are allowed into vaccine trials, while the vaccines go on to be administered to children with all kinds of mild and serious, known and unknown, health problems. The vaccine trials represent the perfect case, rather than the reality of what the vaccines will do once given to the population at large.
It's almost as if those designing the trials do not want to know the truth about vaccine safety and side effects. Hmmmm....
If you look at the statistics for infant mortality rates regressed against the number of vaccine doses in various countries, there is a very clear pattern that requiring more vaccines leads to higher mortality rates. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic... The Pourcyrous Study cited in this article provides strong evidence of the harm these vaccines are doing to infants: http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/201... Here is some more persuasive evidence that vaccines certainly do cause harm, including autism: http://www.anh-usa.org/attack-on-vacc...
Do vaccines cause "autism"? Maybe not in all cases, but I think it's very clear that some type of severe harm is being caused to some percentage of our children, and that we need more studies which are genuinely designed to clarify what types of harm are being caused, to which individuals, and why. Tens of thousands of parents publicly say that their normal child regressed into a state of autism following vaccination. We can ignore all of their statements as anecdotal evidence, but what is their motive to lie?
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