Should parents be forced to vaccinate children before they can attend school?
Posted by richrobinson 9 years ago to The Gulch: General
I saw an excellent presentation last night on the risks of vaccination and health problems including autism. Most States currently require vaccinations in order to attend public schools. The argument being if parents don't vaccinate their kids then other kids are at risk. The problem appears to be the number of vaccines being given at the same time and at a very young age. The speaker made it clear that she was not anti-vaccine but wanted all parents to be able to make informed decisions. I don't have kids so I was never faced with this decision. It would seem logical to allow parents to opt out of many of these vaccines if they wanted. It is possible to get exemptions but it seems the State is making it harder and harder to do that.
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The suspect vaccine MMR did have one CDC study done about 14 years ago. The head researcher on that study, William Thompson, came out about 20 months ago and admitted that he and colleagues committed fraud and that the data actually indicated an increase in autism with the MMR when administered before a certain age. If memory serves me right it's before the age of 36 months. I've heard the recording of him confessing, met and spoke with the man he confessed to, and have looked at the tables of data. Thompson said, "I feel great shame" each time he sees a family with an autistic child. Thompson and his colleagues actually sat in a room and tossed data into a trash can. LOL!!!! Now, that's a story worth covering.
This isn't anything I discovered. It's pretty mainstream info now. It's not widely covered by news shows who rely on pharma ads (watch the evening news lately?).
I don't discuss what I learned publicly anymore. But, in the right setting, I enlighten. My most recent audience was a senior democrat Assemblyman who, after hearing what I had to say, broke ranks with his party and voted against forced vaccination.
When in doubt...look at what Objectivism says. It works for a reason. Funny how well it meshes here.
Sound safe to you?
Of course, the Spanish Flu was in the past, so let's forget that... after all, a simple flu bug can't wipe out 1/6 of the population... right?
Thank you for believing that forgetting history is the best way not to repeat it. I'm sorry... but my kids were vaccinated... as were my grandkids... and they didn't turn into retarded idiots from it...
Even better... I know autistic kids... that were not vaccinated, because their parents "didn't believe in it".
I don't need the government to tell me to vaccinate my kids... seeing older people in iron lungs who didn't have vaccines back then, when I was a kid, was enough. Visiting the graveyard where my in-laws family are buried - where there are a LOT of death dates in 1918 and 1919 -
I don't have to trust the government. I have to trust my common sense, that asks "do I want my kids dead from something I could have stopped"? What I REALLY don't trust - are a group of non-scientist guessers and conspiracy theorists telling me not to vax my kids because they don't think it's good, or they think it may cause this or that... because their aunt Millie said so... because she read it on an internet forum...
Forced vaccination goes against Objectivism, FWIW.
This is completely hypothetical. My point is parental control is not absolute, so I see what you're saying about parental control being a function of relative risks of getting vs not getting the vaccine.
If you agreed with me that vaccines are safe and are in no way connected to autism, I suspect you would still oppose mandatory vaccinations of all school-age children.
Kids not getting vaccinated is a bad idea, but it is nothing like child abuse or anything the gov't should be involved with in any way.
The fact that gov't runs the schools means what should be a personal issue becomes a topic for political debate.
There is no evidence linking autism to vaccination other than from fraud or anti-everything conspiracy theorists.