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Having "Gone Galt" for 15 years. What works and what hasn't.

Posted by NeilMXY 8 years, 12 months ago to Going Galt
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I was homesteading in remote Alaska by the 1990's. In 2001 I began restoring an Alaskan ghost town. It has always felt like Going Galt to me. After 15 years I have two small hotels, a few little retail stores, a saloon and a fine dining restaurant.

Some strange twists and turns along the way -. indeed - even some premise checking!

I am looking forward to sharing my examples in hopes it encourages those who take ideas seriously.

I am curious if there are others in this group who have been going Galt for years.


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  • Posted by ewv 8 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Why do you call this "going Galt"? It's ironic that the government is not only still "feeding" off you, it has crushed people there and you are dependent on the National Park Service for your tourism business.

    There have been a lot of problems with the National Park Service in Alaska, especially in McCarthy where inholders have been harassed and bullied as NPS blocks owner access to private property either directly or through attempts to impose enormous, punitive fees. You are lucky NPS doesn't have eminent domain authority like it does in other units of the National Park System. But it has routinely seized private mining claims across Alaska.

    Being in a remote, quiet rural area in many places in the country leads to a false sense of security and safety. When you are out in the woods it can seem that you are safely away from the bureaucracy, but you aren't. Bureaucrats don't have to be there to impose control. Most people don't know that in Alaska in particular less than 1/2 of 1% of the land is privately owned -- everything else is controlled by the Federal government, the state, and the Native Corporations (Indian tribes). ANILCA (from the end of the Carter administration) has been a disaster for Alaska, turning it into more of a Federal colony than a state.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 8 years, 12 months ago
    I once got a back issue of The Objectivist (a
    sort of pamphlet magazine with a green cover; I
    got it for a little while, and then Ayn Rand closed it
    and started putting out The Ayn Rand Letter). I
    sent for a couple of back issues, out of curiosity
    about two articles. One was "To Whom It May
    Concern" and the other was "A Statement of
    Policy". As I recall from these, Ayn Rand was
    not very enthusiastic about people's trying to
    start a "Gult's Gulch" out in some remote area.
    She did list certain conditions under which it
    would be "time to quit", two of these being one-
    party rule, and censorship.
    What I have been trying to do is promote
    Objectivism within the existing society. I don't
    say that the time to quit can never come, but I
    don't think it has yet.
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  • Posted by jetmec 8 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello Neimxy. You say that your restoring the town, What was the town in it's heyday?
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What does Dave Kelly have to do with it? Objectivism doesn't say to not tolerate anyone else. There isn't any place in the country where you aren't living amongst all kinds of people. What does any of this have to do with Objectivism? You prefer to live in a remote area with a tourist business, and are willing to put up with the hardships of extreme weather and lack of a local economy and infrastructure. That isn't Objectivism; it's your personal choice of lifestyle.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Why sit on an invention? I see big differences between shrugging and not moving forward on something uniquely you.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 8 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have a couple of inventions that I am sitting on. One would be enough to retire on and the other would be ground shaking on a global scale.
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  • Posted by jetmec 8 years, 12 months ago
    Nice idea! Where's the industry to keep people there all year?
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  • Posted by 8 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In business, I find the gap between Potential and Performance - then I proceed to close the gap.

    Since you recognize you are sitting on your true potential, perhaps if you can spell out your potential, recognize the gap in how well your performance matches your potential, and you will have a gap that you can close.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Chad, I don't disagree that the Government is still feeding off of me. I didn't move to McCarthy to go Galt, I just happen to live a life that ignores most of the daily overreaching of government.

    I am not completely off the government grid. I did have to create my own grid (water, septic, electrical systems). I'd say you are correct to recognize the limitations in my version of going "gulch".

    Although not perfect, I'd file my case example under the heading: "Excellence prevents good"
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  • Posted by 8 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The valley I am in has some significant differences from Rand's Gulch. For one, while many in the community understand self reliance, most are just there in the summer season for tourism.

    Why gather with others at all? What I learned is how the gathering of self reliant individuals is a gathering of skills. This gathering creates community while allowing for each individual to remain un-coerced. I find Alaska remarkable on many levels. Not the least of which is the intelligence and productivity that it requires to thrive without much of society's infrastructure.

    I saw Galt's Gulch as representing the conscious decision making of individuals to gather as a group and create a community that thrives only because of individual expressions of productivity. It took persuasion by Galt - ideas had to be taken seriously by the characters, who in turn had to check their premises, as Rand would say. Packing up and leaving society is seldom as fearless as in fiction. Most in my community have come to it with a love of nature and a repulsion of man. So I am in conflict with some of my neighbors. There is little if any coercion because of the tolerance that comes from self reliance.

    I also learned some real limits to what can be done without infrastructure. So I have built much infrastructure within the community over the past 15 years. Homesteading can be a do it alone version of shrugging. In community, I work with those that can apply unique skills to my projects.

    David Kelly's objectivism with tolerance - is a style of objectivist philosophy that works well for me in a community of mixed agenda. It's the mixed agenda that makes this area far less than Rand's Gulch.

    In my case, I create opportunity for myself, and in turn others - In 2001 I had a couple of employees. My companies employee 37 individuals now, and many are the same locals each year.

    Of the 3 dozen year around residents, most are carving a life out of the wilderness. A few are leadership in my organization. Some are just there for the summer to have a great time.

    Here is how I know it works for me: I have pursued and found my happiness.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 8 years, 12 months ago
    I am working as a Math teacher in Texas. I make enough of a wage to live comfortably and constantly try to expose my students to Objectivism at every opportunity. All the while sitting on my true potential.
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  • Posted by chad 8 years, 12 months ago
    If you are still part of the system; paying taxes, getting permits, asking permission; then you haven't gone Galt, the government is still feeding on you.
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  • Posted by jimslag 8 years, 12 months ago
    Cool, not exactly my type of Gulch, but I am glad you found yours.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Glad you like it. I kind of live in a vacuum of sorts out there. I realize the show doesn't have the objectivist perspective I would like, I am always glad for the occasional tidbits that do make it on screen.
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  • Posted by voodoo59 8 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A very good show Neil! The first two seasons were excellent! I wondered about Jeremy's sweater- he's one of a kind. Being an old hard rock miner, your underground tour idea was very interesting to me. Welcome to the Gulch!
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  • Posted by 8 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Another long story... Being the business guy in town, of course I am the villain on the show. It's theater; a documentary style television show about the last frontier town in America.

    We are filming season 3 now. Although I would hesitate to call the show a platform for Objectivist reality tv - it is enjoyable to be a part of, especially because our stories do involve freedom, self reliance, community and the individual.

    Jeremy Keller - the homesteader who does not want changes in the area, is more of a conflicted luddite than an objectivist. He wears an "Atlas Has Shrugged" sweatshirt for the first two seasons. Probably as an anti - Rand statement more than pro-objectivst.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 12 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, Chicken is a couple hundred miles away. McCarthy, Alaska - it's inside the largest national park in North America: Wrangell St-Elias NP. It's private property in the geographic center of the park.
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  • Posted by ISank 8 years, 12 months ago
    Was that you in the town of Chicken? I was thinking about that as I pulled out of that little off the grid town. I love Alaska, and there certainly is room to "go galt" and look forward to hearing about your experiences.

    Mahalo,
    iSank
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