Democracies end when they are too democratic.

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 11 months ago to Philosophy
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This is a brilliant article, but all this talk of "democracy" makes me sick to my stomach; mob rule, lack of any sort of rational moral base and lets not forget...anything goes!

I think Rand Herself, was no fan - any comments on that?

Here is a great excerpt:

In Eric Hoffer’s classic 1951 tract, The True Believer, he sketches the dynamics of a genuine mass movement. He was thinking of the upheavals in Europe in the first half of the century, but the book remains sobering, especially now. Hoffer’s core insight was to locate the source of all truly mass movements in a collective sense of acute frustration. Not despair, or revolt, or resignation — but frustration simmering with rage. Mass movements, he notes (as did Tocqueville centuries before him), rarely arise when oppression or misery is at its worst (say, 2009); they tend to appear when the worst is behind us but the future seems not so much better (say, 2016). It is when a recovery finally gathers speed and some improvement is tangible but not yet widespread that the anger begins to rise. After the suffering of recession or unemployment, and despite hard work with stagnant or dwindling pay, the future stretches ahead with relief just out of reach. When those who helped create the last recession face no consequences but renewed fabulous wealth, the anger reaches a crescendo.


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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I never thought of it that way.
    the Gulch not only has deep thinkers but erudite comedians as well.
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  • Posted by H2ungar123 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    OyVey! This is tooo funny! Thanx for the laffs!! And the education re: the F, W and V.
    It is so gratifying to receive some knowledge of what you never knew!
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hey...the pol's are famous for that...it works for mathematics!...He just applied it to language...
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'll have to school you on Russian/Polish accent. F's are always F. But W's are Vees and vees are w's. He spoke 4 languages and sometimes got them mixed up with one another. He'd say a word I didn't understand and then repeat it louder as if that would make me comprehend. Then he'd laugh and say, "You dunt know vat da hell I'm talking, do you?"
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And it didn't even follow his reasoning in the rest of the article...I live next door to those NY values and living on the shore...I see it all the time...lots of shaking my head during the summer months.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed...but if you think about it, this is what the progressives have been doing.
    The more this election cycle go on, the more I think we're done with the America we once knew.
    That's where it will take a generation or two to change the culture...you see it yourself...they will not even entertain a rational thought, never mind have a discussion.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 11 months ago
    Our system is a republic with exceptions. Not a democracy, but not entirely devoid of that feature either.

    I would favor requiring a popular vote for major policy changes, provided it is in addition to, not instead of, legislative approval.
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 8 years, 11 months ago
    A democracy only functions if the voters are intelligent and well informed. The surest way to destroy a democracy is to compromise the education system.
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  • Posted by teri-amborn 8 years, 11 months ago
    ..."governing moderation and pragmatism" = President Obama's governing style?
    I did a spit-take!
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  • Posted by bobsprinkle 8 years, 11 months ago
    I was not aware of the length of the article. As I read and scrolled down...down...down, I was agreeing and making a list of those I wanted to share this with. Until I got to the last paragraphs. Then I saw this lengthy analysis was nothing more than an endorsement of The Hildebeast. At the risk of offending you northeastern folks, I should not have expected anything less from The New Yorker.
    The most benefit I got from this is the two book titles from Eric Hoffer and Sinclair Lewis. I will add these to my reading list.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The 100 year plan to get her back is precisely my problem with the conclusion of Atlas Shrugged. It would take a tremendous time investment to get the world to be worth going back to after a collapse like Venezuela's.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed...many have brought this point up..."will trump rule over congress, will the engage in healthy debates or will they just sleep and pretend their doing something.
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