Adultery charge refuted for gays? Clever!

Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 10 months ago to Culture
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lawyers can be clever, yes? -- j
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  • Posted by Hot_Black_Desiato 8 years, 10 months ago
    WFT?!?!?!

    These LGBT JOKERS whine, bitch, moan, protest, drive EVERYONE crazy for "marriage equality" then decide they do not like all the pain in the ass crap that come with marriage now they want exempted...

    HELL NO!!
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 10 months ago
    This is what you get when you try to turn fantasy into reality.
    Male is male. With male hormone, internal organs and naughty bits. Female is female, with female internal organs and naughty bits. You can cut off genital and artificially inject hormone and add breasts to a male and you know what you've got? A male with missing genitals, artificial breasts and screwed up hormones. Similar with female. The rest is in the mind of the so-called trans gender. The only way to stop the nonsense is to create a third gender symbol. Neither the 2 legged male symbol or the skirted female symbol will do so how about just a "?" For all the trances whatever they have stuck in their minds that they are.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agree, if on duty or on base, or with subordinates. No doubt this guy has other problems, being also faced with rape and a number of other charges.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Most stories posted here go unseen unless they appear in the Daily Digest e-mails, and I recall that those are done manually.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 8 years, 10 months ago
    maybe this guy should get the support of bill clinton and run for president of the u.s....
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  • Posted by JohnConnor352 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I didn't read the article fully, admittedly. I got one paragraph in and the. Realized it was from the religious right propaganda machine WND Faith. Now rape, I understand. But adultery is ridiculous. Why is such a thing included? Let people decide how their marriages, personal lives, etc are lived without such interference.
    I get that his code of conduct includes it, and that's why they are investigating, but why is it in the code to begin with? Seems antiquated and puritanical.
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  • Posted by TheRealBill 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    With what, a military member allegedly committing rapes? It seems pretty obvious as to why they would get involved.

    Even if it were only the alleged adultery it would be because that is against the UCMJ which he willingly subjected himself to.
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  • Posted by TheRealBill 8 years, 10 months ago
    I'm not sure I follow. So the accused is a man married to a man, yes? He is accused of having sex with a woman, who was unwilling or unable, right?

    So where does this alleged exclusion exist? It doesn't matter if he is married to another man, as that doesn't change the act he is accused of. He allegedly did have sexual intercourse with a woman so I don't see how the argument has any merit.

    It isn't clever, it is reaching. It is the act of having sex with that woman outside of his marriage that he is accused of. Now if he had sex with another man outside his marriage, then as currently defined it would not apply by the letter of the regulation.
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  • Posted by Riftsrunner 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah, but the military law is a strange animal when compared to the common law. They require a much more stringent way of conduct. I have essentially claimed in the past that when you join the military, you are signing your freedom away and are owned by the country and are their (the government's) whim on how you get to act until you are released from service.
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  • Posted by JohnConnor352 8 years, 10 months ago
    Can any of you explain why a military court is getting involved with this? It's absurd.
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  • Posted by Ramius 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agree about civilian adultery laws, but such rules in the military had more a practical basis, I think. Beyond mere good order and discipline, an officer having an affair outside their marriage is vulnerable to blackmail and compromises operational security. I don't know if the rules made it worse or not, but I think that's why they were there. Similar situation for closeted gays in the military.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 10 months ago
    Groping women against their will is criminal molestation and a guy and even a gal can go to jail for that unless you're Joe Biden.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Welcome. Adultery laws are the perfect example of what happens when religious beliefs intermix with legislation and reason is blocked from the chamber of governance. KYFHO
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So it seems this novel defense is all for naught...he'll likely go to jail anyway...of course, muslims get away with rape...oh poor babies...it's part of their culture...CULTURE MY ASS!
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 10 months ago
    Very clever. I did note at the end of the article, however, that while this is a novel defense for a charge usually associated with "conduct unbecoming an officer", it is the two rape charges which are likely to put him in jail for 30 years.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes! . we have a host of intelligent, well-read and
    well-studied people here who can inform us about
    hundreds of subjects. . they're a wonderful resource
    and it's fun to explore with them! -- j
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed...I try to find stuff related to objectivism but I've learned more by the responses about being objective on what one might consider off subject.

    I also noticed that the Pure objectivism outlook kinda prevents one from looking a ALL things, things one knows little about and things that there is no present answer or understanding of. Discussing and speculating on these things widens one's scope and it leads to greater integration's and that leads to higher levels of consciousness.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    something going on around here with downvotes.......
    it's probably the purists who don't want anything but
    Rand and objectivism on the site. . fine with me, but
    if friends can't converse about other subjects, it seems
    like a straitjacket. -- j
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