Newsmax Poll: Majority Want Gingrich as Trump's VP

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 9 months ago to Politics
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I concur...although the polling sample is only 600 something...could this be a trend?

I think Gingrich could keep trumpet on a leach.

I'm not voting for trump but what do you think of Gingrich as VP?


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  • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The woman who called Bush "daddy" is too stupid even to play Dan Quayle's role. Forget her.
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There was a lot of resistence to Gingrich's 2008 attempt to move back into the leadership of the Republican Party. Here is a letter published in the conservative Human Events in 2007 forwarded to me by the author, Myron Ebell at CEI:

    "Subject: FW: Letter to Human Events on Newt Gingrich, 15/10/07
    Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:16:07 -0500
    From: Myron Ebell

    "As the RNC considers the candidacy of former Speaker Newt Gingrich for RNC chairman:

    "Human Events, 15th October 2007

    "Conservative Forum

    "Gingrich, the Wayward Conservative?

    "I love HUMAN EVENTS and am proud that you have published articles that I have occasionally submitted to you. In that mood, I might congratulate you on the terrific articles in your October 1 issue by Jerry Bowyer on the possible reasons for the collapsing price of New York Times stock ["Why the New York Times Has Been Such a Bad Investment," page 3] and by Deborah Corey Barnes on the financial motivations behind Al Gore's global-warming crusade ["The Money and Connections Behind Al Gore's Carbon Crusade." page 19].

    "But I write instead to quibble-in the strongest possible way-about the headline of your interview with former Speaker Newt Gingrich: "Gingrich Lays out Course for Conservatives for '08" [page 7). Isn't this rather like the leftist publications and politicians that pretend to give good advice to their dim conservative opponents?

    "While Mr. Gingrich is a highly partisan Republican to whom great credit is due for the Republican congressional victory in the 1994 elections, he has always been a wayward and confused conservative at best. On some fundamental issues, he is much worse-he is a committed opponent of core conservative principles and values.

    "In particular, his beliefs and record on environmental issues have been disastrous for the conservative cause and for the constitutional rights and material wellbeing of millions of rural Americans. Mr. Gingrich was (and perhaps still is) a long-time member of the Sierra Club. Early in his years as Speaker, he blocked a vote on the floor of the House on a major reform of the Endangered Species Act that had overwhelming Republican and significant bipartisan support. Since this harmed Republican electoral prospects, particularly in the intermountain West (and continues to do so), it suggests that Mr. Gingrich put his environmentalist commitments ahead of conservative principles and even ahead of his own partisan self interest. Mr. Gingrich has in recent years taken credit with his allies in the environmental pressure groups as the person who single-handedly saved the Endangered Species Act from reforms that would respect people's property rights.

    "Speaker Gingrich then created a process that gave then-Rep. Sherwood Boehlert (R.-N.Y.) veto power over all environmental bills coming to the floor. Boehlert led a small rump group of liberal green Republicans who seldom voted with the conservative Republican majority on any important issues. The result was that all efforts to pass needed reforms of America's environmental laws were stymied while Mr. Gingrich was Speaker.

    "More recently, he debated Sen. John Kerry [D.-Mass] on global warming. It turned into a love-in, because Gingrich agreed with nearly everything Kerry said. He offered his usual concoction of "visionary" rhetoric about providing incentives to develop the whiz-bang new technology he loves but also added, "I am not automatically saying that coercion and bureaucracy is not an answer." You can say that again. The whole point of global-warming alarmism, like most environmental issues, is coercion and bureaucracy. If the solution to global warming doesn't involve big-government command-and-control, then it's not recognized as a solution. And Mr. Gingrich must know that.

    "On this issue, as on most issues, he tries to escape confronting disagreements between the left and conservatives over fundamental principles by claiming that the real answer is to be found in new technologies administered by new technocracies that transcend these disagreements. This puts him in much the same position as those pathetic Republicans in the 1950s who promoted themselves to voters as more efficient operators of FDR's welfare state. If Mr. Gingrich's innumerable ideas and proposals are going to guide the conservative movement in the future, then please let me off the ship now before it sinks.

    "Myron Ebell
    "Director, Energy and Global Warming Policy
    "Competitive Enterprise Institute"

    Myron wrote to me later

    "Quite a few conservatives read it when it was first published and told me they liked it. When I sent it round again, someone put it on a much larger list with a note saying that this was another reminder of why we had to stop Gingrich. So I think it's had a modest effect. His goofy book has hurt him with some conservatives who thought he was solid. Gingrich said he wouldn't run for RNC chairman, but I think hoped that members of the RNC would urge him to run, which he would then do. But no one did. Or maybe he really didn't want it because he still hopes to run for president."
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  • Posted by chad 8 years, 9 months ago
    Originally the vice president was whoever came in second in the race for the presidency, this is a good way to choose the VP. He will obviously be a counterweight to whomever made president and will be willing to go to work every day in the senate (as he is supposed to) and work against any passage of bills or laws instigated by the president instead of being the presidents lackey basically trying to stay out of the news and not screw anything up for his boss.
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  • Posted by ewv 8 years, 9 months ago
    Gingrich is a rabid viro mystic. He is especially dangerous because he is intensely and consciously intellectual, articulate, and knows what he is doing as he puts his viro religion into political practice.

    As Speaker of the House in the 1990s he collaborated with major political and intellectual viro activist leaders, including E.O. Wilson at Harvard. Perhaps the best example of this is that Gingrich abused his enormous power as Speaker of the House to control legislation, sabotaging Republican efforts to roll back the powers of government land control agencies and the litigious viro pressure groups under the power given them by the draconian Endangered Species Act.

    This was a serious betrayal of his supporters who had helped to put Gingrich in his position as Speaker on behalf of the preliminary 'tea party' revolt of the time, and it made him serious enemies who have not forgotten. This was not widely publicized, primarily because the media suppresses almost all mention of the controversy over ESA, but it is a big part of the resistance to Gingrich within the experienced political right today, which regards him as somewhat loony. He is.

    In Gingrich's 2006 book Contract with the Earth with a forward by E.O.Wilson he unabashedly defended his religious viro, anti-private property rights ESA agenda and threatened to do more https://www.amazon.com/Contract-Earth...

    "Environmental stewardship is everyone's responsibility, including Congress's. That is why I worked so diligently as Speaker of the House to protect the Endangered Species Act, historic legislation that has been mired in some controversy. Despite its flaws -- and there are some -- it is an essential conservation tool. In my evaluation of the legislation, I sought the advice of leading biologists such as E.O. Wilson and Thomas Eisner, esteemed members of the National Academy of Sciences. Good government depends on the counsel of our nation's best scientists...

    "Environmentalists are not exclusive to one political philosophy...

    "No single enterprise, event, or idea will renew the earth. Instead, I believe it will take a movement composed of dedicated citizens who can see the world in a new way and who will work together to bring about revolutionary changes in the way we conduct our lives. A Contract with the Earth aims to inspire a commitment to protect the integrity of the natural world and to usher in a promising age of environmental problem solving...

    "I will continue to articulate and address these issues in my public life, and I invite you to participate in a continuing dialogue... [W]ork with us to restore and protect the good, green earth that our Creator has provided."

    No rational individualist should be supporting Gingrich. Unlike those conservatives who espouse religious slogans, but because of mixed premises don't follow them to their logical conclusion in political policy, Gingrich does, and there is no better example of it than his viro Creationism rationalizing abuse of real individuals by the draconian Endangered Species Act in the name of "science" as its handmaiden.

    There are a lot of religious conservatives involved in the battle for private property rights against the viros who remember and understand what Gingrich has done, and it is something that should be spread throughout the Tea Party movement so that others not familiar with Gingrich's intellectual and political history won't be suckered into supporting him.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, I'd like Gary better if he hadn't chosen such a complete looter (Weld, the wicked) as VP. Still wondering who is in charge of that campaign.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 9 months ago
    Universal suffrage majority rule proves its lack of wisdom and inability to reason again..
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  • Posted by Stormi 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I know Newt is flawed, do you really know any honest politicians? My biggest fear is Hillary in the WH and Obama on the Supreme Court - I can't think of anything closer to hell. Hillary will let the UN run all over us, taking everything we have, then charging us a UN tax as well. She has no issue with crooked acts, maybe even kilinsg to accomplish them. When cops are asked if they are willing to use guns against US citizens to implement UN Agenda 21 (2030), I say anyone who is willing to speak out in public against the UN has to be heard. I know what Hillary will do, and stopping her is priority, we have to face reality, not reach for some ideal ticket which is not going to win. Leave that to the RINOs.
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  • Posted by Bethesda-gal 8 years, 9 months ago
    What would happen if MITT accepted the VP slot with Trump ??! Would that unify the GOP ? ( not that Mitt would accept or that Trump would offer)
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  • Posted by jimjamesjames 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Guess you forgot his "Contract" that was, mostly, the outline of changes that should be made.... and though not totally successful (thanks to RINOS and dilution of the principles in some measures and a few Clinton vetoes), set a tone for Congress. And it is pretty much acknowledged that, even though introduced as a campaign ploy, turned Congress GOP for the first time in 40 years......... And, he knows more about how the process works than Trump......
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  • Posted by Stormi 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually, both exist, most people have not even researched either, but a few are becoming aware of Agenda 21. Agenda 2030 came out of their meeting this year, and laid out more of a deadline and way to get to the same result. I usually but a slash and list both, but they will change the name as soon as people become familiar with it. I started following it when high school classmate Tom DeWeese educated me on it - before it even had a number, just and intent. Back then they tried to call us conspiracy followers, but I knew Tom was right on the mark.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 9 months ago
    Gingrich has many attributes for V.P. He knows his stuff chapter and verse. I doubt if there's any Democrat who could trip him up without getting trapped himself. Also, he's the best kind of advisor. Based on what I've seen so far, he'll advise without trying to change Trump's persona. He is also creative. The only thing against him in today's voter's eyes is that he's not pretty. Don't shrug that off. We are dealing with a large segment of voters today who have no more knowledge of politics than what lies on the surface, which is mostly how BHO got elected.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I actually think he does...no matter what thoughts on Gingrich are...he is beyond trumpets league all together...I can't say that about any of the other choices on trumpets list.

    I still would like to see Gary get off his ass and make his presents known...not the best choice we might dream of but one I could get behind.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 years, 9 months ago
    Very white. Very male. Very DC insider. Does not address the main population Trump needs help with.
    Might keep trumpet on a leech, but that doesn't need to be the VP.
    He needs a black, hispanic or woman badly. What about Condaleza? She could take Hillary on very well, and the trumpet could stay above the fray!
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Barf!
    Guess you forgot how he caved in to the Demoncrats and Clinton repeatedly and betrayed the promises made to his supporters.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 8 years, 9 months ago
    In my opinion (sounds like an opening comment in AS), Trump is the only viable candidate...regardless of who he selects as V.P.

    Hillary is an absolute non-starter, for more reasons than I can count and the chances of a 3rd party winning the election are minute, considering the current climate in this country.

    If I'm wrong, about the 3rd party chances (I really hope that I am), I will gladly take my beating AFTER the elections.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 9 months ago
    Alabama dino prefers Jeff Sessions, who I've grown way used to voting for anyhoo.
    Sometimes I get mail from someone and some group that says, "Gimme money to petition Senator Jeff Sessions to do something good and conservative for this or that or some other reason."
    I'll be dropping the request into the trash can while thinking, "Why give you money? I already know Sessions will go ahead and do this or that without being asked."
    And Sessions always does. That's why I freaking vote for Sessions all the time.
    For that, me dino thinks Sessions deserves to be vice president. He would even make a great president the average Gulcher would be happy with way more than Trump.
    Me dino be a happy camper with Richard Shelby also a senator and a dude named Palmer for my Washington rep for Sweet Home Alabama, even though that song is wrong about the sky always being so blue.
    Heck, I came close to doing a dark sky tornado Dorothy about two days before Osama Bin Laden got his face shot dead.
    We've all seen a cow do a Dorothy in that Twister flick. Imagine a Dorothy dino! .
    Also unlike the song, I don't love my (current) governor. That divorced while in office adulterer with an appointee is a RINO tax-hiking piece of crap, who wouldn't cut any costs even after a sensible list of proposed cuts was presented to him.
    Also, the freshly replaced Alabama speaker of the house just got sentenced to four years for taking bribes.
    But that's the new normal for politics within my state. Just ask a former corrupt Alabama governor of the 90s, who is still serving a federal prison sentence.
    I could go on but I can tell you're getting bored . . .
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