Why Do We Judge Parents For Putting Kids At Perceived — But Unreal — Risk?

Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 8 months ago to Culture
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"Children need to explore and experiment and be on their own sometimes in order to develop independence and responsibility and self-efficacy. By keeping them under our direct supervision at all times, we sacrifice that, and we narrow their world in profound ways."

"Here's an analogy: Imagine that parents suddenly have a phobia that their children are going to fall down and hit their heads and die while walking, running, climbing or playing sports. When such an injury or death happens anywhere in the country, it is covered 24/7 by the media; shows such as CSI: Head Injury Unit and Law and Order: Running and Falling Down draw big audiences. Some parents decide that just to be on the safe side, they're going to require their kid to stay in a wheelchair all the time. Gradually this practice becomes so widespread that it becomes standard, and schools and camps start requiring all children to be in wheelchairs at all times for safety reasons. Eventually, it becomes so unusual to see a child not in a wheelchair that people start calling the police when they see a child walking around, and parents are charged with criminal negligence for allowing their child to take such risks."


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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 8 years, 8 months ago
    The proposal you make would be laughable....except that it isn't any more! Such ridiculousness all stems from people putting too much faith in the "Regulatory State" and no faith in self reliance and individual liberty. one other reason.....too many attorneys and a lack of "The English Rule" in civil law.
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  • Posted by $ dballing 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "most"? I think maybe "some". Certainly most of the ones who were going to get an education. But I think by far "most" 8 year olds in the time of our forefathers knew how to work around the farm, or whatever, and that was largely it.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Just think of the difference between now and the times of our forefathers: At 8 years old most had a skill and worked, had learned Latin and Greek, were ready for college, some, were recruited as Generals in the army at 10...but today, kids this age can hardly read English and you'd be lucky if they could take the garbage out on their own without being reminded.

    The tattoo thing was a mimic of every stupid, "it's Obvious" warning label we find on everything these days, taken to the next level.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You don' have to stay a liberal statist, CG. But its difficult to break the addiction when you are surrounded by temptation from the mainstream media and statist looters like NPR.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Smart and friendly. That's the description many who met Bill Clinton gave for him, too. Appearances are sometimes deceiving. If you want a chance at individual liberty, CG, stay away from the source of statist propaganda. When you feel the temptation, sign in to the Gulch instead.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A life time of statist brainwashing. That's a partial explanation for why you voted for Obama twice and said you would vote for the Witch of Arkansas.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "what children of men is"
    It's a sci-fi book and movie about a world where suddenly people couldn't have babies anymore and the schools and playgrounds were empty.
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    Posted by 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "today's PC liberals"
    I've gone round-and-round asking term2 to explain what PC is. He patiently explains, and I end up knowing nothing more. Is there a premier for people who don't believe in it? Maybe I am a PC liberal. I do not know. I ranted a little about it here: https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...
    I think I just disagree that PCness even exists. Thanks anyway, even if I never get it.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't know what children of men is.
    My point is use your head and trust your judgement if unsure it isn't worth it so don't.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I will check it out Thanks for the recommendation but I have to say I am not a fan of today's PC liberals.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "I wasn't talking about your common sense and experience"
    Whose sense do we rely on if not our own?
    "who and who cares what they think?"
    The only reason I care is when I help my kids ride the park on a Saturday where I played, it's like Children of Men now. It's unfortunate. There's still another park where kids play, with more parents nearby than when I was a kid, but at least some kids still ride their bikes there and find kids to play with. It's becoming a rarity.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wasn't talking about your common sense and experience as I could care a less . "Things I did would be considered very dangerous now" by who and who cares what they think?
    Be responsible for your own decisions and actions.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Check out WPR. I don't know MN Public Radio. Maybe WPR is better. Everyone I've met at WPR has been smart and friendly. I don't think they need to be gov't funded. But the people and they produce are good.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "common sense and experience"
    I don't know. My common sense and experience are out of step with mainstream though. Maybe we need more science, more dispassionate look at the perils. Things I did would be considered very dangerous now.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I love NPR. I have the app, contribute, and my wife gets a clients when she goes on it. When I've met the hosts at events, they're down-to-Earth. I've been listening since I was a teenager. I lived in FL then. In some ways it hasn't changed that much in 25 years.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    " but that was life"
    It was when I was a kid, but it's not anymore. It's sad on multiple levels, but the thing that hits me the most is that my 6- and 8-y/o kids would not feel comfortable to walk down the same street in Madison I did, knock on a friend's door, and find some random game to play. It would be a crime now if I let them do it. But it was an every-day thing just few decades ago. We watched TV when there was kids programming, but there usually wasn't, and we went to the park or hung out in some friend's basement. Now people see a 7-y/o as need constant hovering supervision. They must learn to go out and do things for themselves, take kiddie risks, face kiddie consequences.

    I didn't get the tattooed warning thing. I'm only 41. Don't tell me kids aren't doing it anymore, hey. In a few years I don't want to hear my kids are just texting instead and not interacting in the physical world. OTOH, I don't want to hear if they're scamming (hooking up, or whatever they call it now) either.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years, 8 months ago
    The only miracle that I believe in , is the love I felt as father immediately after the birth of my children. As a couple my wife and I choose what we were comfortable with , in regards to our kids activities by using our own common sense and experience.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 8 months ago
    I am not a parent but I can just imagine the thoughts I put my parents through as a kid...never came home with out a cut or a scrape; but that was life, it was normal and everyone of us take risks every day...again, that's life and to experience it takes on some risk.
    I can see the progression of this paranoia with a tattooed warning notice at the exit of every vagina stating, entrance into this world may cause death...
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  • Posted by 8 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "I say let them learn some lessons on their own."
    Yes. I'd rather them blow all their money on something stupid as a child than as an adult.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 8 months ago
    Sure. Why do you think many more die from the measles vaccine than from the measles? It's because we're afraid of hazards that are overstated to sell product or that aren't even there in the first place (tetanus being an example). Americans are very afraid.

    As a parent the one thing I will say in a non-joking manner on this topic is that we, as a society, have decided to coddle those who would victimize a child. We are starting to be told to try to be understanding to the ghouls (see recent Solon Mag coverage on this). This does result in a more dangerous environment for kids. Other than that, I say let them learn some lessons on their own.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 8 months ago
    Can anyone stand to listen to NPR's statist propaganda for longer than 10 seconds?
    For decades NPR has been preaching socialist rubbish, encouraging teachers to train little comrades, and pushing morality in this meddling direction, but now the public is supposed to be to blame.
    Meddling statist looters.
    Ignore everything that NPR vomits out on the airwaves and you will be infinitely better off.
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