Stupid??? You want to be the first guy to die of nothing, you have my blessing.

A vaccine works by exposing your immune system to an inactive version of the pathogen so the immune system can prebuild antibodies that will protect you when you are exposed to the real thing. Every day you breath in millions of bacteria and other pathogens and your immune system does the same thing. So, in essence, with every breath you are getting vaccinated.

Modern immunopathy promises to replace vaccines by carefully engineering T cells to be more robust and specific. The first effort is to replace chemotherapy for cancer treatment, and preliminary results for cancers highly resistant to treatment looks very promising. The question is how to make the T cells selective against a wide variety of diseases without triggering immunological disorders. By studying the specific elements of viral diseases and how they invade healthy cells, T cells can be engineered to detect the viral fingerprint, and government and commercial laboratories are exploring the idea of a generalized viral key detector, essentially changing the way the immune system works. They believe it may be possible to modify our immune systems to be able to resist viral strains that evolve into new forms.

As a child I contracted every form of measles, mumps, chicken pox, rheumatic fever (got lucky there, as my doctor treated it as a bacteriological problem instead of viral, and he was right). Aside from the basic DPT shots and the Salk vaccine, I really didn't see much more until the Vietnam war, when all in uniform got a battery of vaccinations, including for bubonic plague. As a seasoned citizen I did get the pneumonia and shingles vaccines. I can't say any of the vaccines have given me a problem, but then it may just be my iron constitution made me resistant.

From day one...all this allopathic crap made me sick as a dog. Once I stopped going to them and started taking care of myself...I've been great.

From what I understand is that it wasn't a cure for polio that was created it was just another variant...there were, at the time, (and from time to time I still try to hunt the truth down) other protocols that worked...but like I said...after all this time, it's tough to vet out.
When progressives and the vial AMA say anything, I am conditioned to favor the opposite. These creatures can't be trusted and anything they say must be investigated.
But my own experience has shown me that my body rebels against any intervention.

I have, so far, been injected for allergies, pneumonia, flu, and when in a hospital, well, who knows. I do remember when I lay on the operating table to get my bypass, the anesthesiologist saying, "Relax, here comes the good stuff," and the next thing I remember was a nurse calling my name to wake me up. But, more to the point: Many chemicals when taken in certain forms and delivered in certain manner are toxic and can put you in a coma and kill you. But these same chemicals in modified form and delivered in controlled doses can actually be good for you. The allergy shots I took as a kid relieved much of my hay-fever symptoms and allowed me to breathe well enough so that asthma didn't develop. (Which it did when I stopped the shots). However, those same injections at a higher dose could and likely would kill me.

Thanks...you just killed me and all my genotype counterparts...

Carl, my friend, this is link is loaded with misinformation. Really, we shouldn't take the polio vaccine? I guess that makes sense if you think it helped rid us of FDR. If Salk's vaccine is so ineffective, why is polio essentially wiped out?

Do we know our stomachs contain hydrochloric acid, which can dissolve nails? Did we know the DNA of Puerto Ricans contains similarities to fruit bats (like all people).

This is misinformation, intended to scare people, just like the AGW arguments. We need to base decisions on science, not hype.

Me age 69 (million years) dino remembers seeing a kid in my elementary school class on crutches and wearing leg braces because he had polio.
A now renewed thought of "that coulda been me" makes me appreciative of the polio vaccine.
Methinks I recall both a needle as well as some kinda treated sugar cubes but time can make memories very vague.
Doubt my very good doctor would give Type 2 diabetic me sugar treated with anything.
Me dino fired a crappy MD back in the 90s before I lucked out for picking this Doc up.
It's likely he is the reason I'm not yet extinct for reasons I won't go into,
So the next time he says it's time for my next flu shot, I'll recall that Laugh-In TV show of the 60s and say, "Sock it to me."
Come to think of it, that goes for a pneumonia shot he had a nurse give me too.
Once attended the funeral of a pretty young lady in her twenties out of courtesy to her father, one of my shift's sergeants at the prison when I worked there.
The cause of her death was pneumonia. It was hard for me to wrap my brain around that. Thought that was an illness that killed kids and old people.
Also thought that woman was the healthiest looking corpse I've ever seen, but then maybe that particular funeral home does excellent work. .

Lucky, I agree entirely. I have a friend who is a vaccine "conspiracist" and have had to explain to him the difference between deadly "fish mercury" and ethylmercury found in vaccines (which quickly exits the body). Likewise with your MSG analogy, the formaldehyde found in some vaccines can be found in similar doses in pears and double the dose in some mushrooms.

I personally believe that herd immunity works -- whether you like the name or not -- and I think proof exists when you consider how diseases that the US has nearly wiped out have made a resurgence in areas populated by anti-vaxers.

While I think everyone should vaccinate, I'm not sure whether compulsory vaccination is appropriate. It's only a gray area for me because I believe in herd immunity -- otherwise I'd say let them fend for themselves.

I think it's safe to say that if vaccines were so bad we probably wouldn't be dealing with overpopulation. Regardless, I'd be pro-vax even if it were proven that there is a chance of harm if that chance is less than risk from the disease it prevents. Like many things in recent generations, I think the benefits granted by our predecessors have robbed us of perspective and appreciation (i.e. not having struggled with wartime rationing, not having seen these nearly-eliminated diseases first-hand, etc.)

As someone with a degree in biology, I view the evidence of the efficacy of vaccines as overwhelming. The real question for me as a libertarian (not an objectivist) is whether they should be mandatory. I've always been torn over this question but tend to come down slightly on the side of mandatory vaccinations.

Blanco

Just a minute. You know what you just defended? "Herd immunity." Absolutely no student of Objectivism should have anything but contempt for that concept. Are we cattle, for authorities of any description to talk of "herding" us or regarding us as any kind of "herd"? To say nothing of the serious doubt that the concept actually works.

If I did that I probably would not live long enough to eat the groceries...it's the "monkey piss" and Mercury that makes me so sick...my body will not tolerate that crap.

You know...if you get a vaccine you can get 10% off your grocery bill at Safeway. I'm thinking about it. I'm only in there about 30 times per year...

Funny...oh I burned the candle at both ends alright but when I realized everyone except two of the oldest members of my family died in or before their 50's, I decided I should error on the side of health...that's when I was introduced to eating right 4 one's blood type.
Never looked back...still not perfect but much better than I would of been otherwise...now about to be 65.

OP= original poster

There is an old song- A little of what you fancy does you good, or something like that.

There is also MikeMarotta's thread:
https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post...

dwlievert was the most sensible contributor-
" I suffer from a habitual affliction in that my body and its remorseless metabolic workings reject any foods which do not contain a generous combination of salt, sugar, and fat.
I try to overcome said affliction with judicious drinking and the smoking of cigars.
At 72 I repeatedly exclaim - much as the man who had jumped off the 100th floor of the Empire State Building was heard to exclaim as he passed the 90th floor, "so far so good!" '
Well I resemble that remark but make 90th something lower!

Was never a fan of homeopathy either and the gaia like greenies are just ignorantly wacky.
I do well just eating foods that do not cause blood agglutination or other adverse reactions.
I had to go a year on a very strict diet, after that, from time to time I can tolerate some of the less harmful foods like when you eat at someone else's house.
The Blood Type protocols and the supplements (I don't depend on them) have made a tremendous difference in my health.

It's really simple stupid...eat the foods that are good for you, avoid the bad ones as much as you can, exercise the way that's right for you and the body does it's job.

Laughing...what's the "O P"?

Allopathy:
A word invented in 1810 by Samuel Hahnemann to differentiate medicine from homeopathy which he founded.
Medicine today, in that era, and as understood by Hahnemann, are quite different from each other.

Homeopathy is the belief that disease can be treated with minute doses of drugs thought capable of producing the same symptoms in healthy people as the disease itself, this is usually by dissolving in water to such a dilution that no trace of that drug can be detected (even at theoretical levels).
(Yes, it is that simple, and that stupid).
Yes, it has been tested and fails repeatedly.

The word allopathy is now used by the advocates of so-called alternative medicine -non-medical practitioners such as chiropractors, homeopaths, and naturopaths-
to refer pejoratively to conventional medicine and mainstream physicians.
None of the alternatives have understanding of underlying causes and they (pretend to) treat symptoms regardless of their claims. They rely on a concept called vitalism, something like souls, rather than accumulated knowledge of physicochemical interactions.

Politics and health policy:
Yes, progresivistas support big health, no surprise as big unions as well as big government money are in big health. Alternatives as well as big-pharma are very big, they are different as most of their products do not work and have not been tested at all.
The major political support for alternatives is from the Green movement, worshipers of trees, Gaia, and such who see humans as the enemy of their idols.

(Would whoever downvoted, it was not me, make a contribution please? The O P clearly needs help!).

Allopathic intervention Is a negative..."Treating the symptoms but not the cause!" Doesn't sound like the right thing to do. Giving the body what it needs to do the job on it's own is the right thing to do. Allopathic creatures, just like progressive creatures want to do it in spite of the body. Their protocols ruin the immune system so they have to do for the body what it could do for itself...if you think about it, that's just what progressives do in government, in the cities and in our lives. It's just plain wrong.

With today's forensic's we have been validating many naturalpathic cures.
You really aught to check out the perverted history and intentions of the AMA...we could include WHO. also.
They are the "Quacks"...allopathic treatments started with a process known as Quackery and just like all things "progressive", the blame and consequences are put upon everyone else.

And Another Thing...laughing...the thing that everyone gets wrong about a harmful substance found in nature is that when you start putting those things in medicine, processed food (especially without the natural fibers) and vaccines one is exposed to more than the body can handle, it goes into overload...this is why there are adverse reactions to these protocols...inwhich they give you another symptom covering concoction and on and on and on.

Olduglycarl. You may well be scared of vaccines and refuse to take them
but they are helping your health by making people who you are in contact
with free from the diseases which in past centuries wiped out many.

Allopathic intervention- a negative term used in ignorance or prejudice to describe evidence based medicine
which has cured many illnesses and substantially lengthened the human life-span.
Natural medicine- a set of practices based on the irrational belief that cures for unpleasant symptoms must be
centuries old to have any worth.

Of all endeavors in organization and technology, human health has benefited most from:
- clean water supply,
- sewerage systems, and
- vaccination.

The questions that are valid include:
Should they be compulsory?
Are they promoted best by voluntarily or government agencies?

A colleague reported that he among many suffered from Chinese Restaurant Syndrome
because of the mono-sodium glutamate used.
I asked him if he likes and eats tomatoes .. ..
But, what has logic got to do with this.