The Most Dangerous Game

Posted by Seer 8 years, 4 months ago to Philosophy
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I wondered if any Gulchers had ever read this short story by Richard Connell. I read it (in my "younger days") and found it to be a thought provoking essay on human conflict and human nature. I wonder if the American vs Russian adversaries are allegorical as respects capitalism vs. communism.


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  • Posted by freedomforall 6 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are the only one who has posted about this and have repeated an accusation. You say it isn't important enough to verify the accusation yourself, but its important enough for you to make such an accusation.
    If you wish to make that known (assuming its true) then you need some evidence. All you have done is to offer an unsupported opinion based upon hearsay. I have not seen any specific evidence of statist bias on the part of the admin of this site. Everyone who posts here probably has some kind of bias. Could some of them be agents of the deep state? Certainly that is possible. But to make an accusation as you have you need evidence, not hearsay. Of course, you are welcome to offer your rational objective opinions ;^)
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  • Posted by PowerBall 6 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It is not that it is important to me; it may be important to others, and that importance would include the news, or perhaps rumors, of infiltration.

    If, indeed, there has been infiltration---trolling---those involved would certainly not care for the world to know about it, wouldn't you think?
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  • Posted by PowerBall 6 years, 9 months ago
    Someone important on the international stage, when introduced to this comment, suggested that it has been blocked from view because the Gulch has been infiltrated by those in the "vile entanglement of Leftism and Global Deep State", and/or their cohorts the Neo-Cons. This person was quite impressed with both the content of the topic and the comments posted thereto. Also its pertinency.
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  • Posted by oldtk 8 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You should have finished it. It's a great movie with some very poignant moments.

    Interesting point. European history is, if anything, brutal beyond compare. Lest art in the broad sword than the scimitar. A European castle is, if anything, sheer brutality, compared to the mosques. So, you could be right!

    I am then reminded of how Britain used opium to control the east.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I started watching that movie once, oldtk, but it seemed pretty brutal for a lady like me!!
    You are so smart.
    I started thinking abut some other aspects of human nature, you might find interesting, this afternoon. And that is that Europeans, and people of the West, seem to be a more direct, straightforward people than those of the East. Compare castles to mosques, scimitars to broadswords. Maybe eastern peoples delight in discovering more indirect ways of solving problems. The world can certainly do with all kinds.
    So maybe Lucky Jack had some Oriental mentality working for him.
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    Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I would elaborate, blarman, but I'm kinda in a hurry right now and your comment requires deep thought. See, I can so be nice!
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What I see in Zaroff is a desire to achieve and excel coupled with a fundamentally flawed philosophy that regarded man as no better than beast. Zaroff saw little beyond bestiality (and here I don't imply a sexual connotation but merely a raw animal nature). I think one of the grave flaws was not to see how reason sets apart man from all other beasts and how by very nature of that reason he was denying his own humanity as he simultaneously denied it in others.

    The other thing that strikes me in this story is Zaroff's cowardice (he had the only firearms and he had hounds). If he was truly a competitor of like vs like, he would be seeking to take on the mind of man. This isn't a chess match of intellectual superiority at all, but a rigged contest based on superior tooling and arbitrary limitations. To me, Zaroff is a weakling - able only to dominate others through situation.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks for your thoughtful reply, blarman. I also saw it as a thought-provoking essay on human conflict and human nature. I never read political structure into it, only in so far as it contributes to an understanding of human nature.

    You brought up a good point, I think. Zaroff's need (?)---drive, desire---to eliminate boredom overrode any respect he should have had for the "right" of another to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Maybe that should be "the right of another OF life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

    I always found this interesting: the word "routine"---in its meaning of "fixed" and thus conducive to boredom---is derived from "route"---a pathway. So someone tire of routine is looking for a new path.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 8 years, 3 months ago
    I have read this story and like it, both from a literary standpoint and philosophical as well. But I don't necessarily read political structure into the story at all. It is a story of human nature. It is a story highlighting the brutality which underlies us all and which if not tempered by respect for rights and the philosophy of humanity (not to be confused with humanism. Here I am simply referring to the identification of Man as a unique and reasoning creature by which Reason come natural Rights) can turn to a different end.

    Thank you for bringing it up, nevertheless. +1
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ovomit has the type of personality, which, like that of Marx, doesn't feel capable of competing. (He is a Marxist, you know.)
    It is why he does the things he does: back-stabbing, trying to impose his own reality, eliminating competition, sticking it to the other side, reliance on words.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Nothing would have helped Ovomit. I know.

    I did look it up. Interesting song, interesting bit of history.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 8 years, 3 months ago
    Obama should have read this story. His understanding of international gamesmanship would have been helped by reading it.
    An old Cossack song 'Oy da ne vecher" is part of Russian culture. You look it up on You Tube and it is sung everywhere in Russia.
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    Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Because of the competitive nature of man, anything can become a "game".

    I'm working on a theory that perhaps laws and regulations (where needed) should address means and methods, rather than objects. But I don't think it is going to go anywhere.
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    Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Did you see "Countervailing Powers"?

    You strike me sometimes, kh, as a type of Pollyanna, always looking at the good side of human nature.
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    Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wanted you to understand that no matter how laws are made, or how few regulations there are, there will always be those men who play for the pleasure of the risk, the pleasure of competing, and not the object or goal.
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  • Posted by khalling 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    we raised our family and had our business in Colorado Springs for over 15 years. huh. small world. anyway, I ultimately thought the story was about colonialism/elitism. there are always stories about "The Game"-I think of the movie by the same name-Michael Douglas I think. Ultimately even at the highest levels, these individuals are second handers-no better than 2 bit clever grifters. Bernie Madoff comes to mind. But capitalism is not the fertile ground for such people. Cronyism and socialism are fertile grounds for that kind of thinking
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  • Posted by starbird56 8 years, 3 months ago
    I also read this story a long time ago. In some ways it reminds me of an Arthur C. Clarke short story called "Hate" (also known as "At the End of the Orbit"). I tried to find a link, but haven't been successful yet.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The article mentions the FSB. Apparently whoever wrote it doesn't know the FSB is more like America's FBI---handles internal matters.
    I imagine the entire world is laughing its fool head off, don't you.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I do believe you gave Ovama a "new idea', Thor. Just saw this headline on MSM internet news: "Russian Hackers Penetrated US Electricity Grid Through an Electricity Grid in VT"
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/russ...

    I couldn't read it; the man's a complete mess.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, that's a rather pessimistic way of looking at life!

    I myself have had more than my share of falls due to excessive pride---some quite ingenuous---but it has never made me pessimistic. Made me a little more humble, maybe!
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