Grammar and spelling

Posted by minesayn 8 years, 4 months ago to Culture
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While I do not always write grammatically correct and have the occasional spelling error or typo, it still bothers me to see it in articles and posts. The question is this: does it bother others, and if so, does it lower your opinion of the author and the subject at hand?


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  • Posted by Seer 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's interesting, never though of that before. But of course I have to ask, why would punctuation cost a lot more? It's only a code, so it seems code for punctuation would have the same cost as code for alphabet.
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  • Posted by Seer 8 years, 3 months ago
    After seeing some of the comments, I'm wondering if the English language lends itself to more homonyms than other languages, due to all the many foreign words having infiltrated the language. It certainly adds to the fun, and the pun, (play on words, of course) of a language.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    An interesting book, Morton M. Hunt's "A Natural History of Love", (1959) is a good history of the development of romantic love.
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  • Posted by Seer 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It'll work, but it seems rather "simplistic".

    Still, doesn't seem to be word I'm looking for. Maybe I'm being delusional, maybe there isn't such a word. Maybe someone needs to create one!
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  • Posted by 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You reminded me on of my biggest pet peeves. The use of ME as the subject, rather than I (and generally the person says it first in a compound subject like ME and Jennifer are going to the library.) All you have to do is listen to news commentators and you can hear it. Because of this, more people are following their example. How sad.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 8 years, 3 months ago
    No it doesn't lower my opinion of the authors of grammatical or spelling errors...why?..cause it happens to me.
    I compose on the spot like many here do and no matter how I scour my work...there is always something I miss.
    I often say: my best edits are always after I click...add!
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  • Posted by Steven-Wells 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    None of those grate on the ear as much as a report about a "rouge" terrorist, as though a rogue applies pink cheek makeup before running over a crowd with a truck.
    I have a collection of video snips I saved from Fox News anchors actually screwing up their own names.
    A related favorite item is a late night plug line after a brief news flash: "The most powerful lame in news—Fox News." At least the teleprompter reader was very pretty.
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  • Posted by strugatsky 8 years, 3 months ago
    To me, bad grammar means that the person is uneducated and, consequently, his opinion is of lesser value, or the person is disrespectful towards himself and others, likewise leading me to discount the opinion expressed.
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  • Posted by PURB 8 years, 3 months ago
    I taught a college class on "Advanced Grammar" this fall 16 semester. I've taught for decades, but never was I so often inundated with questions! Not interested? Students are fascinated! Even the suggestion that they're not interested is something up with which I'll not put!
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  • Posted by Steven-Wells 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There was a reverse to the fee per character situation: In the earlier days of telegraphy, punctuation cost a lot more in a telegram than regular text, so the word "stop" cost less than a concluding period (.). Thus, telegrams like this:
    CLIENT IN NY AGREED TO DEAL STOP AWAITS YOUR APPROVAL STOP
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  • Posted by Steven-Wells 8 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Years ago, my boss sent me a report that concluded with his "Summery". I sent him back:
    Eye bee leave ewe cant all weighs halve it write buy yore spell Czech. Summary: Summery whether, theirs nose know.

    Though it all passes the spell checker, he thought I was writing gibberish until he tried to say it aloud, Then he called me a "smart ass" but laughed about it in good spirited fun.
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  • Posted by Steven-Wells 8 years, 3 months ago
    The initial post is, itself, grammatically flawed. Perhaps that was intended as a reflexive example, like: "Don't use no double negatives." I'm surprised nobody has commented on that yet.
    The initial post, "While I do not always write grammatically correct and have ..."
    The "correct" is incorrect.
    Either assume it is an adjective missing its antecedent: While I do not always write grammatically correct messages...
    --or--
    It's intended as an adverb describing the verb "write": While I do not always write grammatically correctly...
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  • Posted by CTYankee 8 years, 3 months ago
    I can forgive typos in posts, I'm a horrible typist, and my fingers often fall on the wrong keys. Also when I see a typo I look to see if the offending letter is adjacent to the correct one.

    Autocorrect is often responsible for seemingly incongruent words popping up in sentences. I've grown sick and tired of changing the auto-corrected word 'do' or 'go' when I've used 'to' to use a verb's infinitive. But just as often the autocorrect will subtract a 't' from 'the', as it just did to me as I typed this sentence.

    As for articles; that's a whole different set of rules. When I read an article with ANY errors, I do consider the author to have been lazy. And if the article was also edited, then the error reflects badly on the whole publication!

    Of course there is that contemptible language with a bizarre grammar known as 'news-speak' which is intended to grab eyeballs. We kinda havta overlook the atrocities committed in the novelty lede and bylines of that vernacular.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 8 years, 3 months ago
    The guiltiest are the media talking heads, who misuse the language horribly, and I see their garbage gravitating to the general population. It was media who first started talking about how the "optics" of a situation looked bad, instead of the proper word, "image." I first heard the invented word "methodology" on a news broadcast, when the right word is simply "method." Just today I heard a Fox talking head say "We should be dubious about claims of Russian hacking," a complete misuse of the adjective "dubious," when he should have said "doubtful" or "skeptical."
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  • Posted by dukem 8 years, 3 months ago
    In junior high school back in the dark ages, I realized I was weird and "special" when I saw that diagramming sentences was the most fun I had ever had. Still is, except now I put reading Galt's Gulch above other types of fun. I seem to have the ability to spot errors in written articles at "flyover" levels and wish there were significant remuneration available for that skill. Of course, I'm blind to my own writing. I guess that's a good working definition of "justice."
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  • Posted by Stormi 8 years, 3 months ago
    Absolutely agree! I have a major in English, and I feel grammar matters. I am being treated for macular degeneration in one eye, so my glasses are never quite right, leading to some weird results. However, I do try to clean it all up. What is apparent is how far the degeneration of English has come, especially on TV. From dayiome to sitcom, no one seems to know that a gerund (-ing form of the verb) takes the possessive ( ie: "my" rather than "me"). It is almost never used correctly on TV. With the use of the little head figures on phones and tablets, people are also using a greatly diminished variety of word choices. We are returning to cave drawing culture. One need only turn on a black and white movie from the 40s, to see that people used far more words choices, and used correct grammar. It delights me to see actors of old actually more educated in English than today's college grads! Actually, it saddens me, but snowflakes think they are so smart.
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  • Posted by rtpetrick 8 years, 3 months ago
    "....it still bothers me...."
    ME TOO!
    "....does it bother others, and if so, does it lower your opinion....."
    YES and YES!
    If the author can't take the time to correct his spelling and grammar, he shows little respect for the language in which he writes....and consequently, the intended reader.
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  • Posted by Tbird7553 8 years, 3 months ago
    Yes, on both. While I don't have a full command of the English language, I do expect professional writers, e.g., journalists, to be able to write well. I am often amazed at the many typographical errors I see in news articles. What ever happened to editing? I can overlook writers who make errors if writing is not their profession.
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  • Posted by NealS 8 years, 3 months ago
    My fingers are becoming dyslexic. Most of the time now when I type "from", it comes out as "form". I also seem to be making anmy more errorrrs. It is also more difficult to find the errors until after the post is made. I do a lot more editing that I used too, but still sum of it gets buy. And I do judge people somewhat by their grossley mispeled and misused wrods. I'm actually becomming a lott more tollarunt of uthers.
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  • Posted by Esceptico 8 years, 3 months ago
    Answer: Yes and yes. One must keep in mind language is first a tool of thought and secondarily a tool of communication. If one does not have a command of the language, one does not have a fully functioning cognitive (thinking) ability.
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