But no matter who's responsibility it is nobody should be forcing everyone else to pay for it.
Condoms are not expensive, certainly less than you spent on the date. Ditto for birth control pills, Walmart has them on their special program in their pharmacy
Either sex can get birth control materials for free if they are unable or unwilling to pay for it themselves.
There is no proof that this is Hobby Lobby's plan maph, There is not one shred of evidence offered except that the owners are Christians.
I could say that you intend to force public schools to teach homosexual sex for four years - it does not make it true. Where is the evidence? There's none on that site.
It depends on which Communist nation you're talking about. Some have suppressed freedom of religion, while others have not. Cuba, for example, allowed open religious practice. I'll have to do more research into the Soviet Union's policies, but I'm pretty sure they only banned religion initially, and then eventually relented and allowed open religious practice as well.
Also, that's the definition which was established by Ludwig von Mises, who is one of the few anti-Socialist writers who actually has a scientifically and historically accurate account of what Communism and Socialism actually are. Most other writers **coughcleonskousencough** tend to spread misinformation by engaging in historical revisionism and fear mongering.
Any large company has the potential to impact the public education system. For example, Microsoft is a software development company, yet they're also a big proponent of Common Core, and one of the main reasons why Common Core is becoming so widespread. Your incessant belief that large corporations have no ability to influence public education is totally irrational, and has no basis in reality.
I am not disputing any of those points. I am simply shining a light on the fact that Hobby Lobby executives have a plan to try and teach religious doctrine through the public school system. Granted, their plan may not be successful, but it is incredibly foolish to assume it is automatically doomed to failure.
And livefreely is simply sticking his head in the ground and trying to pretend that large corporations have no ability to influence public education. We all know that Hobby Lobby has no DIRECT connection to the public school system, but that doesn't mean they can't influence the system through the legislative process by buying politicians and bureaucrats to impose their will on the community.
If you did not support Obamacare you should be supporting their winning that limited victory against it.
But since You dont like their belief system you twist their victory against that law as some sort of empowerment to mandate religious instruction in the public schools.
Since you are against religion in schools, why do you not protest the allowances given to other faiths? Or is it simply Christianity you hate?
As I was already "researching" video clips for my "Philosophy from Babylon 5" post, I happened to think of this clip by your comment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJmuHNDc...
"No, Communism is socialization of the means of production, and nothing else. "
Oh my no. Communism is much more than just that. It's practiced as a complete system and if you bother to look at it, religion is suppressed. Pastors that are allowed to stay become government employees and the church is ran as a propaganda arm of the government and they were told what to say..
In Russia the churches were only visited by the very old who continued to go out of a old pattern of life. All Jews who stayed were sent to Siberia along with most Christians of working age. These were the ones who refused to recant their religion.
For all intents there was no religion practiced in Russia, getting caught holding "church" in your home and you next stop would be aboard a train heading to Siberia.
As practiced in Russia, there was no freedom of religion.
And now we have a person stating simply what you should have found for yourself Maph. If you ever apply some reasonable filtering to your "sources", limiting them to those who will give you the proof of the data they state.
Facts are much more important than opinion. Evidence is golden but only to the point that it applies to your subject.
Here is what we know of the owners of Hobby Lobby; They are wealthy. They are a family with a closely held company. They won their fight against O-care. They are a religious family.
Here is what we KNOW about the Hobby Lobby Folk's employees; They are well paid, between a beginning at above minimum wage, to twice min. wage. The healthcare they are provided gives good coverage, including 16 of 20 birth control methods. They have a good vacation package, maternity leave, even educational help is available.
From my personal conversations with employees of Hobby Lobby employees, they are pretty happy with their jobs, benefits and pay packages.
Maph - every point I listed I can look up and give you a website that confirms each and every point with data from interviews and from published data about the company. As livefreely stated, your "source" lists no data or references.
Without sources the thing is just opinion and accusations. .
You can't say people were "meant" to be anything without accepting a creator who had intentions. Also you don't think they should be free because you think they need a government to take a portion of their property, by force if necessary, to support the general public.
The fact is that Hobby Lobby has no connection whatsoever to education. The writer did not provide evidence to support his conclusion. He is therefore not reporting his is making an accusation that is unfounded.
All sources are inherently biased, because all people are biased. It's impossible for any human being to write anything without inserting their own personal prejudice into it. There is no such thing as a non-partisan source. The only question is, "To whom is the writer partisan?" It would be unwise to dismiss an entire set of data simply because it happens to be partisan to a group you personally dislike, or because it presents ideas which make you feel uncomfortable. When you do that, you're letting your own bias get in the way of rational thinking. Therefore, it's best to gather information from a multitude of sources, each with different slants (and all information is slanted). Only by viewing information through a wide variety of lenses will it ever be possible to obtain real truth.
I didn't say you were being sarcastic. What I meant was that *I* was being sarcastic. Looks like you need to check your reading comprehension as well...
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It is the responsibility of both people involved.
But no matter who's responsibility it is nobody should be forcing everyone else to pay for it.
Condoms are not expensive, certainly less than you spent on the date. Ditto for birth control pills, Walmart has them on their special program in their pharmacy
Either sex can get birth control materials for free if they are unable or unwilling to pay for it themselves.
I could say that you intend to force public schools to teach homosexual sex for four years - it does not make it true. Where is the evidence? There's none on that site.
Also, that's the definition which was established by Ludwig von Mises, who is one of the few anti-Socialist writers who actually has a scientifically and historically accurate account of what Communism and Socialism actually are. Most other writers **coughcleonskousencough** tend to spread misinformation by engaging in historical revisionism and fear mongering.
And livefreely is simply sticking his head in the ground and trying to pretend that large corporations have no ability to influence public education. We all know that Hobby Lobby has no DIRECT connection to the public school system, but that doesn't mean they can't influence the system through the legislative process by buying politicians and bureaucrats to impose their will on the community.
But since You dont like their belief system you twist their victory against that law as some sort of empowerment to mandate religious instruction in the public schools.
Since you are against religion in schools, why do you not protest the allowances given to other faiths? Or is it simply Christianity you hate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJmuHNDc...
Oh my no. Communism is much more than just that. It's practiced as a complete system and if you bother to look at it, religion is suppressed. Pastors that are allowed to stay become government employees and the church is ran as a propaganda arm of the government and they were told what to say..
In Russia the churches were only visited by the very old who continued to go out of a old pattern of life. All Jews who stayed were sent to Siberia along with most Christians of working age. These were the ones who refused to recant their religion.
For all intents there was no religion practiced in Russia, getting caught holding "church" in your home and you next stop would be aboard a train heading to Siberia.
As practiced in Russia, there was no freedom of religion.
Facts are much more important than opinion. Evidence is golden but only to the point that it applies to your subject.
Here is what we know of the owners of Hobby Lobby;
They are wealthy.
They are a family with a closely held company.
They won their fight against O-care.
They are a religious family.
Here is what we KNOW about the Hobby Lobby Folk's employees;
They are well paid, between a beginning at above minimum wage, to twice min. wage.
The healthcare they are provided gives good coverage, including 16 of 20 birth control methods.
They have a good vacation package, maternity leave, even educational help is available.
From my personal conversations with employees of Hobby Lobby employees, they are pretty happy with their jobs, benefits and pay packages.
Maph - every point I listed I can look up and give you a website that confirms each and every point with data from interviews and from published data about the company. As livefreely stated, your "source" lists no data or references.
Without sources the thing is just opinion and accusations.
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By whose intent?
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