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The Lack of Shame

Posted by Shrugger 12 years, 5 months ago to Politics
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The Lack of Shame

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This is a true story. It happened exactly as described.

It was around noon on election day, November 6, 2012. I was sitting in McDonalds. A group of old retired men were enthusiastically talking about the election... saying nothing of note, but with much ignorance and stupidity. I stayed out of it. An employee of McDonalds was clearing a nearby table and quietly said to me, "This has been going on all day... I can't wait for this election to be over."

A couple was waiting in line. They were a typical, mid-forties, white, middle class couple. They were listening to the old guys discussing the election and the state of the union in general.

One of the retired guys said something negative about "Obama-Care" and the middle-class white guy in line turned to him suddenly and said, "Oh yeah, well I'll have you know that if it wasn't for Obama's healthcare plan, I wouldn't have any health insurance right now."

This silenced the old guys. He continued, appearing to speak to the room in general, "Obama made it possible for me to cut the cost of my insurance by over 80%, so I voted for him again."

The entire room was silent. Nobody said a word. Before I knew what I was doing, I heard myself addressing him.

"You actually sound like you're proud of that", I said.

"You're damn right I am," he replied indignantly.

"In other words, you're proud of the fact that instead of paying for your health insurance yourself, you and Obama have ganged up on ME and have forced me, at the point of a gun, to pay for part of your health insurance. You're actually PROUD of the fact that you are mooching off of me and all those people working behind the counter in McDonald's... that you're part of a gang that is using the power of the government to FORCE us to pay for your healthcare. Instead of feeling ashamed... instead of bowing your head and cowering in front of all the people you are depending on to pay for your healthcare insurance... instead of meekly thanking them for the sacrifices they are being forced to make in order to benefit YOU... instead, you stand there claiming that you're PROUD! What do you have to be PROUD of? Are you proud of the fact that you're unable or unwilling to take care of yourself? Are you proud of the fact that you're stealing part of their wages for your own personal greed? No... shame is what you should feel. Disgrace... embarassment... and gratitude... along with a strong dose of remorse... because YOU can't or won't take care of yourself and so you joined a mob of others who can't or won't take care of themselves... and together you've figured out how to force US to take care of you. Shame on you."

Nobody said a word. The guy was stunned and his wife stood there mortified. The room was absolutely silent for a moment, then one of the retired guys started clapping... and within a few seconds, he was joined by another... then by someone across the restaurant... and pretty soon it sounded like the entire restaurant was applauding.

I had delivered my little sermon while still seated at my table. I remained seated and looked down at my meal... angry at myself for having lost my temper and butting in rather than minding my own damn business.

Within a minute or so, the room quieted down again and everyone went about their business, pretending nothing had happenned.

Then I heard the guy quietly say to the McDonald's counter person, "Can I change my order... I'd like that, to-go please."


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  • Posted by seymourblogger 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Insurance companies have been legally immune to investigation for decades. They have bilked billions from individuals kept ignorant of math by the school system. If you think these are two separate factors, never read me again.
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  • Posted by seymourblogger 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Whoa. Look at Nathaniel Branden and Barbara too. Nathaniel never had an original thought of his own. Whe he did, and I will forever be grateful to him, was to FORMALIZE Ayn Rand's Principles of Objectivism. If Branden's NBL had not presented Rand's Objectivism in the form it was presented to me (read rote, 1,2,3, examples, etc) I would never have gotten it so far brainwashed was I in this method of presentation from my former education. Now from a different place I see he subverted all of her fiction, got her to write ridiculous non-fiction, make him super wealthy, and steal his life from him to pay for that. NB never had one original idea and that includes self-esteem which existed in philosophy and psychology long before he wrote about it. Or even thought about it. As for Barbara I don't even want to go there, and I loved her as my teacher. Both of them have made a nice living as 35th raters on Ayn Rand and her work. Neither have contributed anything original. Sorry. I do take no prisoners.
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    Posted by seymourblogger 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Consider healthcare from a different perspective. OK I will consider it from the perspective of a Foucauldian Grid of power/knowledge/capital. Healthcare will not and does not exist in a little bubble of its own. It is knowledge/power/capital. That is, it will never be separate from the three variables of power/knowledge/capital. You are very fat. You are at high risk or already have diabetes. You have health care. What do you think your practitioner is going to prescribe for you? Do you really think you will get "healthcare"? Say you are a long term smoker. What do you think they will prescribe for you as your symptoms become unmanageable? Is it going to take nicotine drug tests to get you to go cold turkey off the smokes in order to get the govt paid oxygen tank so you can breathe? Health care has consequences, just as everything else you decide or do has. I think the only ones who address this issue are the far right fanatics.
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  • Posted by seymourblogger 12 years, 5 months ago
    All of what you are saying here could be better understood and communicated by a careful study of Foucault. Power/Knowledge/Capital are a Grid, a Matrix that encompass us all. We can argue pro and con about this until we also are old and retired and grumbling and still no closure will be available to any of us. I will disobey one of my caveats and say that the insurance industry is being forced to give back now for favors received for decades and decades.
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  • Posted by seymourblogger 12 years, 5 months ago
    Not exactly a Foucauldian act of parrhesia as no risk to you was involved, but certainly on the way.
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    Posted by Wanz75 12 years, 5 months ago
    The story is obviously fake. The verisimilitude of objectivists illustrates their delusion and two-dimensional thinking. You people, like spoiled children, take what you have been given for granted.
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  • Posted by Extinctionrising 12 years, 5 months ago
    Shame, decency, honesty loyalty are all moral concepts buttresses by religion. State socialism is intrinsically mechanist, treating people as godless units of productivity to be use, misused and eventually eliminated by the state. Freedom is anathema to the socialist as it is inherently individual rather than collective in nature, and it does not submit to the exchange of votes for tangibles.
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  • Posted by 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Storm... the issue you bring up is one of the most important misnomers that Objectivists... and all true advocates of reason... must address.

    While the subject is too important to thoroughly cover in this string, and probably deserves a separate posting of its own... let me briefly address it here.

    Ayn Rand abhorred the concept of altruism... which is a philosophical belief that it is morally appropriate that a being sacrifice itself for the sake of the group to which it belongs.

    Many misunderstand her position. They equate her disdain for altruism as an attack on compassion in general. Ayn Rand never spoke against compassion... and reason dictates that compassion have a place in our lives as rational beings who must rely on voluntary interaction between like-minded individuals in order to thrive in this world.

    The difference between altruism and compassion is a question of self-sacrifice.

    Compassion is defined as a "deep awareness of the suffering of another coupled with the wish to relieve it."

    Compassion becomes altruism when an entity chooses to sacrifice itself in order to alleviate that suffering.

    It becomes pure evil when it chooses to sacrifice someone else in order to alleviate the suffering of itself or another.

    And, by the way, compassion had absolutely NOTHING to do with why Roark secretly designed Cortland... neither compassion for those who would live there... nor compassion for Keating.
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  • Posted by 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Great!!! If I discover just ONE new ally here in the Gultch... then my tirade at McDonalds will have served a useful purpose.
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  • Posted by 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    JF, I understand your cynicism... to be perfectly honest... I didn't really believe it while it was happening. It wasn't a planned reaction.

    More importantly... you MUST believe that the feeling of entitlement that many of our fellow citizens now have is, at least in part, the fault of all who continue to support a system that fosters that mentality.

    You can not compromise with irrationality.

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  • Posted by 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sword... are you REALLY implying that I am ignorant because I don't agree that you have the right to FORCE me to help you pay for your existence?

    And then you state that we must "stop being selfish"...???!!!

    You First...!!!

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  • Posted by 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Unfortunately HD, I'm afraid he was telling the truth. While the media has continually portrayed the new healthcare laws as pertaining to future implementation, look at the facts! Many of it's provisions have already been put into effect. The link provided by "ObjectiveAnalyst" will help you see that, while many of us were looking elsewhere... the administration has been busily putting this mammoth new piece of legislation into effect. In fact, many of the provisions have been in effect since the middle of 2010.
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  • Posted by hdmtnryder 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Obamacare is 2700 pages of "the secretary shall decide" on the road to communism. He who would trade freedom for temporary security deserves neither. And the constitution does NOT give the federal government that power. The preamble to the constitution is a goal and desire, grand but unobtainable in this age.
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  • Posted by XenokRoy 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks, the amount of vigor to show to others as I speak about what is reality is something I am currently struggling with. You have given me a few things to think about.
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  • Posted by WWJGD 12 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well... yeah. Of COURSE he was lying.

    Ever seen an Obama supporter who isn't lying?
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