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How The Trans Agenda Seeks To Redefine Everybody

Posted by khalling 10 years, 9 months ago to Culture
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"It’s ironic that those leading the charge for the transgender revolution would claim there is only *one* right side to history."

"Indeed, “civil rights” is always a nice line. It works well to stop debate. There’s lots of emotional blackmail involved because of the social punishments (labels of “hater” or “bigot”) heaped upon anyone who might question the agenda."


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    Posted by $ AJAshinoff 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How about turning mainstream superheros in comic books into homosexuals instead of creating new characters?

    Just today I saw an article about one actor (name escapes me) that refused to take a role as a homosexual vampire and lost his job. I have no issue with his losing his job because of his decision. However I know from many authors whose books became films that directors have a lot of liberty with scripts. I does raise the minor question, if this guy was so popular why not adapt the script to accommodate him?

    Its A Living was the first (TV show, 70s or 80s), to my knowledge, to use desensitization to force social acceptance.
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  • Posted by plusaf 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You keep calling something an illness while modern science and medicine keep discovering ways in which "it" seems to be a normal variation for many species.

    You have created the label of "illness" and the like out of whole cloth. And you can't even recognize that, yet you label our comments "illogical."

    Wow.
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  • Posted by plusaf 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, on my next birthday, on the anniversary of the murder of JFK (yes, I remember exactly where I was that afternoon... in my freshman year graphics class at RPI), I will turn 69. I, by long arithmetic, was born in 1945, and yes, I was aware of the bigotry and discrimination faced by blacks and many other minorities back then and still now.

    So please don't think or generalize for me.

    BTW, "What illogic? Your problem is your narrow-mindedness. You, in your self-declared moral and mental superiority, cannot see views outside the narrow confines of your preconceptions, prejudices and indoctrination.

    What is illogical is suggesting the appetite and romantic feelings for members of your own sex are somehow the same as the appetite and romantic feelings for members of the opposite sex, yet still different from the appetite and romantic feelings for groups, minors, family members, inanimate objects, animate objects, and so on. "... cuts both ways. But if your mirror is stained, you won't see that, either.

    And condolences on your loving dog's death. My wife and I have rescued, fostered and owned many dogs in our 24 years of marriage and I wailed in the vet's office after MY favorite golden had to be put to sleep after a hemangeosarcoma bled into her pericardium and I took her to the vet twice for it to be drained of about 100cc of blood, and even helped with the procedure the second time.

    Vote me down all you want, but notice the changes in today's society as more and more anti-LGBT laws and even state constitutional amendments are being reversed or found to be unconstitutional.

    'Bye
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  • Posted by Notperfect 10 years, 9 months ago
    My wife and I have met one of these people who have had this change in their lives as a matter of fact he or she what ever their preference in my eyes are just angry at the world more than likely at God because of their situation. Angry because they were born a male or a female. That my friends no one and I mean no one has control over. Yet they will push this agenda on all because of their disgust. Back to the ones I work with as I stated. At first I just thought they were sisters and welcomed them as just two more employees as I was greeted. Then when I found out what their preference was I could care less as long as they did their jobs they were hired to do. Being a long haul truck driver also armed secured carrier we haul many different precious and expensive articles around this country. Both are truck drivers both know how to use a weapon. One was a policeman at one time the other a stay home mom, but their attitude caught up with themselves. If doing my job makes me a bigot, hater then so be it. They have the same responsibilities as my wife and I nothing more nothing less, but when customers are complaining about what they do what they wear then that reflects on us all and that includes me. This is not a rant behind their backs because I called them both on this subject one night and the used to be male employee evidently knew I was angry because all they both want is the easy road as long as their transgender problem takes front seat to everything. I have a problem with this attitude so call me what you want, but just stating facts. In this business as in any business doing the job is numero uno and being angry at the world because your agenda gets trampled on I could care less. I am here to make money not to set an agenda for anyone to follow what the rules should be. The rules were given to them just as they were given to me. I do not have to defend the Bible for it's words, but God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. It is not my place to harm any who believe otherwise, but these are mine. If those who believe in this so called transgender revolution cannot even agree with what cards they were dealt then why bother those who believe otherwise. Stop the damn anger it serves no purpose. Instead of taking it out on someone who does believe otherwise take it out on an oak tree or a maple tree see how far that gets you. Hiding behind "civil rights" shows the cowardice of that agenda. Those of that agenda will not be standing beside me on judgement day as I will not be beside them. I can only tell those who will listen as prophesied in the days of Noah and in the days of Sodom and Gommorah this will take place no matter who tells you different. I guess I have said enough, but it's your choice.
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  • Posted by Solver 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How do you define hate? Does the every sentence really express hate? Does propaganda equal hate? Compared to the intense hostility I've read, this is article is rather tame.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    which is? you will not list out what I have said that violates reason in regards to the social justice push for LGBT? What is the group think I am "buying" into? I make up my own mind. I often try to persuade others. I do not try to change their minds with laws. If someone is harming someone, we have existing laws on the books to address that. Words have meaning. Identity is constant. When things change the language also changes. But LBGT is becoming more and more synonymous with political agenda and force. Show me where I am wrong. I have pointed out many instances. You do not respond to those.
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  • Posted by sdesapio 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There is no valid justification. And, do yourself a favor and stop with the passive aggressive nonsense. It's transparent and just makes you look foolish.

    You'd be best served to read that Code of Conduct Maph (http://www.galtsgulchonline.com/faq#faq1...). There are plenty of other forums online for you to push your agenda. You should reflect on whether or not you're in the right place. From what I've read of yours, it would appear not. This is not a forum to debate the merits of Objectivism. It's a forum to celebrate them.

    Of course if you're willing to learn, there are plenty here willing to teach. However, your history here indicates that you are unwilling to accept the facts of Objectivism - preferring mostly to base your conclusions on misinformation spread by the enemies of Objectivism.

    Reevaluate why you're here Maph. We are.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    just point something out you see as hate speech. I don't see it. I do see that the author is upset over the recent (last few years) push politically (force) to penalize people who do not get on board. how is that cool?
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    Posted by Maphesdus 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah, sorry, I just lost my temper. It just upset me that this kind of blatant propaganda and lies is being propagated so willfully here.
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    Posted by Maphesdus 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The entire article.

    Sorry for swearing at you, by the way. I was just upset.
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    Posted by Maphesdus 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "they avoid discussion of what happens to the homosexual actors in primate culture, where most are brutally punished or banned."
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    ORLY? Got a source for that?
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    Posted by Maphesdus 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sure, but don't go around calling a goose a duck. My financial beliefs are based primarily on the writings of people like Robert Kiyosaki and Warren Buffett, neither of which is a Socialist. :P

    And the only charlatans and despots who have ever made any deliberate attempts to change language are the fictional ones in the novels of George Orwell. As far as I'm aware, that's not really a tactic that real dictators have ever actually used in real life. But regardless, changing of language is something that's also done by scientists when the old vocabulary cannot sufficiently describe observed phenomena. Bill Nye came and gave a speech at my school back in 2011, and one of the things he talked about was how he himself had personally invented new words to describe phenomena which previously had no label attached to them. You can watch a video of that speech here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDyy4H4W...
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    Posted by Maphesdus 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Okay, gradual change from simple to complex over time. Articulating a more precise definition doesn't refute what I said. And where in Aristotelian philosophy does Aristotle define "identity"?

    And progressivism isn't socialism. Socialism is the abolishment of private property, which is an idea that's not part of progressivism.
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  • Posted by Eudaimonia 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Or, as i often say,
    If it taxes like a duck, redistributes like a duck, and agitates like a duck, it's a Socialist.

    Yes, it's a mixed metaphor, but I like it.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Why do you feel the government needs to get involved at all?"
    In short, I don't. LGBT couples and now polyamorous people can come to Madison or either of the two UU congregations I go to get and positive welcome unbiased by their sexual orientation. I really wish the gov't would drop the whole thing.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Show me whrre I have made a bigoted comment in this post. I have close friends in a partnership. I was in the the hospital room when their first daughter was born and their children both refer to me as "aunt." There are some illogical opinions on this post but also some logical concerns about state driven agendas that force behavior. The inventor of JAVA was recently forced to step down from the CEO position of his company, even though he has many gay employees due to his political choices on a California legislative issue. Those employees enjoy great jobs and even so they pushed him out. That is group think. I think like myself. You have insulted me personally. Please check your premises
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    See, there you go again. You're trying to conflate and confuse by attempting to mix definitions of 'identity' and 'variable'. Variables can vary, Identity can't. That's their definitions in logic and language.
    You also refuse to accept simple definitions. Evolution is not change over time-it's development from simple to complex and it's identified in it's science.
    You additionally attempt to conflate 'change' with 'added to' or 'expand' in the language of a science.

    If you're just ignorant, I can excuse that. You can always learn more. But I think you're purposeful which pretty much defines you as a progressive socialist.
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