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You are being programmed: Five ways your thoughts are being driven against your own self-interest

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 7 years, 2 months ago to Culture
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Some of us have strong connections to our objective minds but still that connection is vulnerable if one is not aware of the many methods used to separate us from it...even for a moment.

So you can imagine how difficult it is for those that do not have a solid connection or worse yet...don't even know that connection is available to them; Like the young especially, even under normal circumstances, they have a tough enough time of it, along with those that are stubborn, nieve, mis-educated, socially distracted, mentally ill, have a physiological abnormality, (like graves disease) or, the worst of all possibilities, have a genetic predisposition that forebodes the left and right brains from cooperating, (bicameralism).

Mankind's achievement of the Mind came about with the aid of language, spoken and written and at a time when it was necessary for our own survival. [Julian Jaynes]

We can discuss this back and forth but it is pretty clear to me that what we are seeing in our culture is not of the minds making nor acceptance and certainly not of the nature of man.

These events, committed by some, have always plagued the human species but today it's almost by design.


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  • Posted by $ pixelate 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I recall watching this video a few months ago. It is very well done; and good to see that G. Edward Griffin is still as giving it his all with the new Red Pill University and Need to Know News: https://needtoknow.news/
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I call it a premise if it's a fact used in another argument.
    Premise: Police officers always obey the law.
    Premise: Person A is a police officer.
    Conclusion: Person A always obeys the law.
    The logic is correct, but the argument is not sound because a premise is incorrect.

    Premise: Police officers always obey the law.
    Premise: Person B always obeys the law.
    Conclusion: Person B must be a police officer.
    The reasoning is bad. It's error of the converse: a --> b therefore b --> a. The argument would not be sound even if the premises were true.

    Sometimes there are unstated premises that go into valid logic. So the argument appears sound until you dig into it and realize it rests on incorrect premises.
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  • Posted by minorwork 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yep, agreed. About 95% of people will give a body help freely. 3% will just stand around refuse to help. Then there's that 2% genetic assholes who will act to hinder your efforts who it would be hard to find a jury of peers to convict a body for wishing ill of that 2%.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 7 years, 2 months ago
    Well, I went through boot camp in 1977 as a 4-by-10 Naval Reservist, and I don't remember being drugged (except that I, along with the others, was given some innoculations); we were required to give "donations", which was the Company Commander's way of referring to urine tests. At the time, I just assumed that was a way of testing our general health; later, I realized it was testing us for drugs. (I don't think the word
    "donations" was meant to deceive us; I think it was simply a joke on the part of the CC.) I don't recall that either the urine tests or the innoculations had any effect on my thinking.
    But I really do not approve of the "chemical straitjackets" in vogue now to make children easier to manage..
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And That is what we are saying, observing and worried about: The War Between them...if you thought their attacks on us is bad...just wait until they play islamist and UNdians not to mention crony corporate perversions with us still in the middle.

    Shaking my head...starting to sound like the endtimes...seems each time this uncivilized cycle rears it head it gets worse each time...this time might very well take the cake.

    Hope those with our heads on straight are still be around to pick up the pieces.
    We usually are but with a lifetime of restarts, I am not too thrilled about it.
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  • Posted by dark_star 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not a coincidence at all. All those leftist groups are merely joining forces when a specific attack can advance their specific agendas. That doesn't mean they are working togehter for an overall common goal with a centralized command center, it only means they are riding on each other's coat tails while it helps them on a case by case basis.

    Personally, I think that if all of their "common enemies" were to disappear tomorrow, they would be at each other's throats before you could say utopia. Just look at Bernie vs Hillary supporters.....
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well...how do we explain the observation that every nut case, every coercive ideology, from islam to simple progressivism and everything inbetween, are all lurking around in the daylight TOGETHER in plain site...all competing to squash all that is good and decent in order to rule the world in their own image. Not to mention, the leaders of these perversions are in high places and loved by the leftest of the world.

    Coincidence?...I beg to differ.
    If it is a coincidence then the cosmos is playing a nasty trick on us all...
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The over riding nature or at least our historical observation of the majority of mankind is that mankind is usually good. We wish to be good, our nature is one of mutuality; otherwise if we ALL were as bad as progressive history paints...we would have ceased to exist long ago.

    Think about it, what we study most often is the actions of rulers and those actions are attributed to the masses...do we often study the masses themselves? No, virtually only the rulers and their governments.

    Even in societies that had some say in how their societies were governed is still not indicative of the overall behavior, thoughts, wishes and world views of the society itself...not even ours which at the present time, if we are to believe the polls, is a 50/50 split but you and I know that 50% of America has fallen for the ruse.

    I have studied and observed people all my life, in an effort to understand my self and the true nature of mankind in general and I have to say definitively...the majority of people I meet are good, productive and creative and would lend a hand to others in need at a moments notice without even thinking about it.

    And as for that other 50% in our country and perhaps 60% or more in the rest of the world; we can see what has been done to them, where they have failed to evolve beyond no knowing fault of their own.

    Based upon my observations, studies, queries and polling: what we see today in our culture does Not represent the true nature of mankind...and all those confounding forces come from all directions...it truly is a wonder that the existence of mankind has always rested upon those that history has ignored....The Common Man.
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  • Posted by dark_star 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oh I agree Georgie is an evil man and all the deep state bureaucrats exist for their own personal fiefdoms. The same goes for marxist academia and their followers. I just don't believe the "They" are operating a coordinated attack against the average man using every conspiracy mentioned on the internet as suggested by the article.

    I mean the fluoride in the water thing is right out of the 1964 movie Dr. Strangelove's claim of a conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."
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  • Posted by minorwork 7 years, 2 months ago
    NOT the nature of man is what we are seeing in man's cultures? What?

    Always plagued the human species but whatever events you're speaking of are not due to man's nature?

    Lot of things to be made clear, not least of which is the operational, the working definition of design versus that of evolution. If that gets resolved THEN maybe if not before, we can get some details of what is and isn't man's nature.

    For me, man's nature is determined by what man's perceptions limit him to perceiving in conjunction with the modeling brain whose models of the world are error corrected by the senses of perception -- primarily vision -- on the fly as we weave ourselves thru streets, sidewalks, and the obstacles to the bathroom that somehow make sense to my wife to BE in that pathway.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The links are a start but the entire premise, facts and sound observations do not exist in one area...it would take a 4000page book to lay it out.

    Dobrien posted a good video to watch.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are so correct.++++++++++1, If I could Highlight your commentary, I would for all to see.
    If they don't see these things in the lamestream then it doesn't exist. There are many other examples like yours throughout history.

    Some have but most haven't even thought to themselves that they have the Right to protect themselves from harm...it's like the demoncraps and the lamestream expect us to just stand there and take it!...Ooo...fight back!...oh my gosh that's wrong!
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  • Posted by $ jlc 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am really not sure. In my view, the article stated a premise, then presented a bunch of unsupported claims, then concluded that they had proved their premise.

    So do I say that the premise may still be correct or that their conclusion is?

    Jan
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  • Posted by $ prof611 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I would like to know more about the "vaccine problem". I just spent a while Googling both onsite and off, and can't find a good article that focuses on that topic
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks Dob, EVERYONE SHOULD WATCH THAT!

    We can acknowledge this happening in communist countries but most will not even entertain the fact that it is happening in America TOO!
    Maybe it is a case of not seeing the TREES for the Forest?..and that kinda fits cause progressives think backwards.
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Has anyone checked out the links in the article and some of the links others have provided.

    all we need to do is observe how the media and political rhetoric shapes a very fragile young mind: Guns are the problem, get the NRA, coupled with all the things that effect the brain, subconscious, conscience and conscious mind from working properly...not to mention the absolute bull crap they teach.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Its premise may, in spite of that, be accurate. "

    Yes, but I would substitute conclusion where you say premise.

    In my understanding of logic, premises + reasoning lead to a conclusion. The conclusion is unreliable, in other words "it's an unsound argument," if a premise is wrong or the reasoning contains a fallacy.

    It would the "fallacy fallacy" to say we know the conclusion is wrong just because one argument supporting it is unsound.
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  • Posted by Stormi 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Absolutely! I have heard so many commentators in the last few days say, "We can't let this happen again", or "This should have stopped with Columbine" - well examine the whole picture, not just guns! A group of parents and grandparents had met regularly when Outcome Based Ed was starting in our school years ago. We had already read about the suicides at the Governor's School in Ark.,, under Clinton. As part of our research, we watched a video, given to us by someone out in Colo., of a local TV discussion of that same system in Columbine, and, they were concerned what it was doing to the kids. After the video, our consensus was that it was going to lead to bad results. About a year later, we were not at all surprised, based on the content of the education system, that violence had occurred there. s Months later boys here threatening to blow up the school and to break teacher's legs. One day, under bobomb threats, our duaghter's middle school had multiple police on duty, when one boy tried to push our daughter down the steps, no officer close. Luckily, she was a brown belt in Tae Kwan Do, and flipped him, sending him sliding down the hall on his back. A police officer arivied in the hall in time to see the end, and calmly told the guy, "Guess you picked on the wrong girl this time." If a teacher had seen it, both the boy and our daughter would have been punished, self defense was discouraged. Indoctrination, group think, victimization, our schools today.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 7 years, 2 months ago
    I think that CircuitGuy is correct, but that the kudos go to Abaco, who hit the nail on the head: This article is worthless. It is just a set of spurious, unsubstantiated allegations which attempt to play on one's paranoia.

    Its premise may, in spite of that, be accurate. (Just because one individual's arguments are poorly stated and irrational does not mean that his premise is wrong...it just means that he is not good at arguing on a logical basis. There is probably someone else who has stated this case in a rational manner.)

    Jan
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  • Posted by $ 7 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not "some supreme Illuminati " but the deep state: Unaccountable bureaucratic agencies and ideological political actors...can you say: georgie sorass?, for instance; not to mention the known marxist and their corrupt followers within our own congress.
    Those creatures have no conscience let alone brains.
    You can't deny that woody wood wilson's, "teach em to learn and not how to think", hasn't taken it's toll.
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