How Do They Get That Way?

Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 11 months ago to Philosophy
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Have you ever asked yourself why liberals are so wrong minded, even when their beliefs are proven to be irrational and their philosophy demonstrably faulty?I have come to believe that it is built on self-hatred.Perhaps it was instilled in them by their parents, or by the many other soul-crushing events that can happen to a child as they grow into adulthood. some of you will understand because you have gone through it and have had the strength to overcome it and are quite pleased with yourselves.My Granddaughter recommended the poetry of W.H. Auden so, being a poetry lover I picked up a book of his poems.Now, you should understand she graduated from a state college, well known for its liberal attitude as most of them are.I didn't expect much elucidation from this famous ode-maker.I came across a poem called "In Praise Of Limestone"."I 'm a long way from being a shrink, but it brought back all the shrinkish stuff foisted on me during a great tragedy in my life. I've overcome being in a liberal family, in a liberal neighborhood, among liberal relatives which I managed to overcome as I struggled for rationality.Let me quote the part of the poem that got me started on this diatribe.
"I am the solitude that asks and promises nothing;That is how I shall set you free. There is no love;
There are only various envies, all of them sad."

The terrible lonliness of being with yourself.Boo-hoo. It is during the emotional 'teen years where this is particularly foisted onto persons, when they are flooded with hormones, and unidentified feelings. It's no wonder they are attracted to philosophies of emotion , where concern for their fellow man overrides concern for themselves. I have no degree in shrinkology, so you might say I'm merely prattling so much garbage. Maybe so, but that poem excerpt is typical of the left, justifying almost anything because it demands sacrifice, and the people have been conditioned to self-hatred. That's why such poetry is typical of the left. You won't find heroes in their literature, or positive aspirations in their fiction, That's why I don't read any "serious" books of fiction. Only thrillers, Where I can identify with the good guys and hate the bad guys.


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  • Posted by 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    All of your post is reflected in the public schools. Schools run by the government will obviously reflect the policies of the government, which have tended over the years to be increasingly socialistic.
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  • Posted by 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Somewhere along the road of history, we have lost the ability to tell right from wrong. The real from the phony. We have become shallow, so that the candidate with the best hair has the edge. In the last election, those in "fly-over" country hadn't lost their sense of values and changed parties because those values were only expressed by one candidate in plain, simple language without the need for interpretation.
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  • Posted by 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There are those who can dream and make the dreams come true. Not easy. Waving a wand is only the escape when working on the dream requires rest. Making the dream come true is often work, disappointment, little triumphs, big failures and finally, often unexpectedly, the dream grows like it was a newly fertilized plant. Nothing is easy, nothing is luck, Nothing is given. In the end, it belongs to the one who sweated blood for it, and it doesn't belong to anyone else. Ever. Try to take it away and a fight unto death will ensue.Those who have never experienced the dream cannot always imagine how much it means. It is creation. The creation of the only true creator on earth, .....Man.
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 11 months ago
    I think trump rallied the “deplorable” who were sick and tired of government control. Half of the people in the country plus most of the politicians are collectivists. We are headed for civil war and the breakup of the country into two parts-or- the USA will degenerate like venezuela
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  • Posted by Solver 6 years, 11 months ago
    Having individual rights requires individual responsibility.
    Having a group right requires...?
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  • Posted by Stormi 6 years, 11 months ago
    Youth are not allow nor encouraged to find out how to be individuals. They are pushed into groups and organized activities from toddlerhood. They are fed depressing socialist collectivist ideas hours a day in gov. schools. If they like to be on their own, they are "loners", with labels. If you cannot feel comfortable alone, you will always be seeking a group, a herd of peers. In a way, I was lucky to have attended 12 schools in 12 years, and had a horse with whom I could ride the meadows. They did not have time to socialize me. I took Latin, so I was first introduced to Plato and Socrates, then Sartre and Rand. Kids today are not allowed any of these interests. They are not allowed to fail, to dream, to think. We all know how important Rand thought thinking was.
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  • Posted by GaryL 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I am with you Herb but I am also right. Too bad I will be one of the fools reelecting the RINOs but only because I can't bare the thought of allowing a Dim to win. As long as we allow politicians to enjoy lifetime careers we will have power mongers in the game for their own self enrichment.
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  • Posted by 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A little too skeptical, Gary.If you're right, no point in this or anything else. I'm not quite there, yet.Even if there's no chance of winning, one should continue to fight the good fight until death do you part.
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  • Posted by jimjamesjames 6 years, 11 months ago
    Those who can, seek freedom
    Those who can't, seek equality

    Those who can, have results
    Those who can't, have excuses
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 6 years, 11 months ago
    I came to the same concussion some years back, that they are ruled by guilt. But being of the bicameral brain set, they have no choice but to blame something or someone else; that is what bicameral's do. One can observe this in writings of old and especially in the old testament.
    One must also remember, this guilt comes from a Super Ego, (imitation conscience) because they have yet to accept a proper "I".
    They may very well be stuck forever as a brain in a body only; incomplete, only 2 parts of a 3 part equation.
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  • Posted by GaryL 6 years, 11 months ago
    "Have you ever asked yourself why liberals are so wrong minded?"
    NO! After 66 years of living and watching the socialists work their destructive plans it is no wonder we are in the shape we are in. As much as I do appreciate what Trump is attempting to do he is fighting a loosing battle even within his own party and those who are against him will be reelected anyway.
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  • Posted by 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have been saying the following for years, You don't need ten commandments. Just two rules, strictly obeyed. 1. The right to say NO to anything and anybody. 2. MYOB Mind Your Own Business..All the rest is merely decoration on those two.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Haha! Yep. Sounds about right. What a concept? - just leaving people alone. Why did that become so foreign?
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  • Posted by 6 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm told by my cousins, "Everyone should be treated 'fairly.'" When I said how about just leaving them alone to do what they want so long as no one is hurt?They looked at me as if I just grew horns.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 6 years, 11 months ago
    Interesting.

    I have been friends with a few different liberals. Certainly...I always see a breakdown in logic. I always see deep emotion, too. Most of the time, there is a fixation on race.

    I saw the announcement yesterday by Bernie Sanders that he's running again(?) I really, really can't stand Bernie because he's an open Socialist. Socialism results in things like the Killing Fields, Auschwitz, etc. But, I know a very intelligent wife and mother friend who swears by Bernie. When I pointed out to her the atrocities that Bernie's policies have historically resulted in she just gives me a blank stare. How do you give a blank stare to that? Something's missing... I know, in her case, that she was raised by a liberal lesbian.
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  • Posted by Solver 6 years, 11 months ago
    It’s all about agitating people’s emotions. When done effectively, reasoning slips.

    Take the fact that, it makes little sense stealing from all the smartest and most productive members of society so none of the children of the world will go hungry for the day.

    Most leftists would resentfully disagree, many labeling anyone who thought this way a beast or even a Nazi.

    When they have a losing argument, based on weak reason, evidence and logic, they appeal to emotion.

    It is a very effective strategy.
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