I Stand for the Flag but I Won't Stand for This

Posted by $ MikeMarotta 6 years, 10 months ago to Government
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The administration argues that this absurd policy is more humane than the alternative, but using children as leverage to deter families fleeing three of the most dangerous countries in the world — El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras — is simply un-American. By the way, for migrants who are screened from these countries, high rates of asylum are granted based on credible fear. Now, those asylum-seekers have another fear: that the U.S. will do to their families what criminals and tyrants back home couldn’t manage.


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  • Posted by H2ungar123 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    When we will not have a country?? You mean we
    still do?? I'm having difficulty recognizing the one
    we now have as opposed to the America in
    which I was raised. THAT America no longer
    exists for me. A tragedy for which I have no words.
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  • Posted by bobsprinkle 6 years, 10 months ago
    A little research shows the following....El Salvador president Sanchez Ceren.....Guatemala president Jimmy Morales....Honduras president Juan Orlando Hernandez....and for the grand finale Ninaragua president non other than Super Commie Daniel Ortega.
    Trump should start charging tariffs on every "immigrant" from those countries. Say 50 or 100,000 dollars. subtract that total from the "aid" sent to those countries and use that money to pay for the new immigrants.
    As a little exercise do a search on the names I listed above. Most of us are aware of the corruption in these countries. But this would bring home the reality that to stop all of this we are just gonna have to take these countries over.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 6 years, 10 months ago
    I can't believe the 'bleeding hearts'. I was the Executive Director of a Federally Qualified Community Health Center. We treated 'undocumented children'. No questions asked. My mother taught me 'Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see'.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 6 years, 10 months ago
    Another article explained this situation. The reason the families get separated is that there's a court decision limiting the amount of time children can be held in detention -- and it's shorter than the time adults have to be held for a decision to be made if the adult claims asylum.

    The obvious and sensible solution, it seems to me, is to adopt this policy: "From now on, if you want asylum, you have to show up at an official port-of-entry and apply for it. If you cross the border anywhere else, you forfeit any ability to request asylum."
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  • Posted by MrT 6 years, 10 months ago
    Fleeing your country, seeking asylum, is not a license to settle in the country of your choice. Crossing through 2 or 3 countries that you could seek asylum in, bypassing the US embassy and nine consulates in Mexico to illegally cross into the US should disqualify any asylum seeker and/or their family. Period.
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  • Posted by lkparkerjr 6 years, 10 months ago
    By the same logic, any American Citizen parent who is accused of a crime should have the right to bring their children to jail with them. We split up American Families every day because we hold their parents accountable for their crime. Entering this country without permission is a crime. It is not our fault the families are separated, it is the fault of the parent who brought their children illegally across our boarder. In the very least, these parents should be placed in jail for endangering their children. They should instead apply for refuge status in a legal manner (embassy or port of entry).
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  • Posted by mccannon01 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Legal immigration has not been halted. There are many legal immigrants entering our country every day.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 6 years, 10 months ago
    It seems to me, once these oppressed people leave "three of the most dangerous countries in the world - El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras - " and enter the safety of Mexico they no longer have to continue on to the United States. They have escaped their tormenting nations and have entered a country of similar culture and language and should simply apply for asylum in Mexico.

    Also, shifting the terminology from "illegal alien" to "migrant" is pure BS. Sneaking into the country is 100% criminal. I understand it is a misdemeanor the first time and a felony the second time. When a citizen with children commits a felony and the authorities come for them and slap on the cuffs, the children are taken into protective custody until their fate is properly adjudicated as humanely as possible. The same should occur for the felons at our borders.

    BUILD THE WALL!!
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  • Posted by starznbarz 6 years, 10 months ago
    No American has to stand for this, they can contact the proper agencies and declare their intent to be responsible for the number of these kids they can qualify for, simply agree in writing to finance the kids for their - and their chain migrated family members for life. The ones with no kin to be found can be outright adopted. Outraged? Practice what you preach before telling me what I must do.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 6 years, 10 months ago
    Trump news today - start of the Draining of the Swamp - Mulvaney was showcasing plans to collapse duplication between departments... Example he gave, if a hotdog is in the original package, or sold as just the "dog" - it's under USDA's regime. If you put it in a bun, it's FDA. Whoever sells the hotdog has to deal with both of them. Move the USDA Rural Home Loan program over to the FHA - they know what they are doing (but I fear they may rob resources for rural communities to do more "low income housing" in urban areas), the USDA Rural Broadband grant program is probably better off in Commerce.. and the SNAP program (also USDA) could easily be done by HHS.. Then take the "food" inspection away from FDA, let them focus on pharmaceuticals, and have USDA work with all types of food (they do that better) - there.. we just got rid of 40,000 USDA jobs.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 6 years, 10 months ago
    If they have a legitimate claim for asylum, they need to come in through a port of entry, not jump across a fence or swim across the river.

    4/5 of the kids arrived here alone (unaccompanied) or with a coyote and no parents - meaning the parents sold them into slavery or whatever. Sorry.. but I'm calling 'bullshit' on some of that.

    Even on the CBS evening news last night, they tried to make a dramatic event over picking up a kid that had been in a foster family in Ohio for 8 months, flying them back to Honduras, and reuniting with the father - and the kid kind of seemed like he had no idea who the father was, or didn't want to be there at all. (Kid was like 6 or 7, so he wasn't an infant). "Dad" looked pretty young to have a kid that old - kind of like an 18 or 19 year old gang-banger to be honest. I think the kid was sold and dad was happy because he gets to sell him again.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 6 years, 10 months ago
    It's not a simple as you think. Follow this; Children kept with their illegal family cannot be put in adult jail nor can the adults in the family be put in children's jail.Since there are n viable places to put them, the only alternative is to let them go. It is a "Get out of jail free" card. Trump hatred has gone too far this time. In 2014 Obama was implementing the same policy without a whisper or whimper from the Drive-By Media. If Obama does it, it's OK, but if Trump does the very same it is evil.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 6 years, 10 months ago
    What would Galt do, if this were a problem in the Gulch...and would his fellow strikers beat him up for taking drastic actions to keep "scabs" out?

    I don't think so.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Build that wall! Protect OUR country!

    Wanna bet the Mexican government wouldn't take action, if these illegals couldn't make it to the U.S.?
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  • Posted by $ blarman 6 years, 10 months ago
    What galls me is all the faux outrage - especially from those on the left. This had been happening for years under Obama (and Bush II before that) but no one on the left was willing to let out a peep because it was their party in power at the time.

    Here's the real problem: a Congress unwilling to simply set strong immigration policy (or do anything really). They haven't been willing to do anything about it since Reagan except ignore enforcement in order to swell the ranks of illegals in this nation. And why? Because they like the cheap labor and a dependence on a voting bloc that savors handouts - which means political power.

    My biggest gripe is that Congress wants to have the perks that come with elected office, but not have to do its job under the Constitution to actually make law. Many (especially in the Democratic Party) want to just sit there and be able to criticize without any responsibility for action, where the original Constitutional mandate was for Congress - not the Executive Branch and certainly not the Judicial Branch - was supposed to have the most power.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 6 years, 10 months ago
    Dagny's crash landing into Galt's Gulch is an excellent case study in how to handle a violated border. The electromagnetic shield over the Gulch was an excellent example of a "wall".
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  • Posted by term2 6 years, 10 months ago
    These migrants should stay in their countries and make them better and safer. In any event, its not my duty to fix THEIR problems. Turn the people away at the border just like Canada and Australia do. We cant just take in anyone who wants to come here- its not the 1800's where we despertely needed residents. There are enough people here already to have a great country.
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  • Posted by GaryL 6 years, 10 months ago
    Emotional blackmail is spot on but the MSM is pushing this immigration/child deal to take the focus off the Inspector Generals hearings on Hillary's emails and the FBI. Those hearings were treated like a complete black out on most of the usual suspect alphabet news networks.
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  • Posted by dark_star 6 years, 10 months ago
    I call BS ...
    This is a totally manufactured issue.
    Anyone who has ever traveled internationally has been "locked" in staging areas until they are processed through customs. If a person is suspected of criminal activity, they are SEPARATED from whoever they are traveling with and if those other people happen to be minors, they will be held under lock and key in a separate area until a determination can be made as to what needs to be done to keep them safe.

    The children are NOT being housed in cages ....
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  • Posted by dark_star 6 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Absolutely!
    And they are not being held in that cage. That is only a staging area to keep them in until they are processed...
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    Posted by DrZarkov99 6 years, 10 months ago
    Families claiming asylum have to undergo screening to make sure they're not drug mules or human traffickers delivering the children to sex rings for the American pedophile market. Both happen, according to the Border Patrol.

    Illegal entry into America is a criminal act, according to U.S. law code. U.S. citizens detained for possible criminal acts don't get to have their children remain with them, so why do we have to offer that to persons who are not citizens?
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