Preparing for the next National Emergency: the Gun Crisis?

Posted by Zero 6 years, 2 months ago to Ask the Gulch
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A question to Trump supporters:
If he is successful in his bid for emergency powers, are you not worried that a future president would likewise bypass congress, issuing emergency executive orders to confront the "gun crisis?"

Or do you believe Pelosi was making an empty threat?


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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 6 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A wall would be nice. But not that way, by the arbitrary decision of one official. Even if it can be technically legal according to the Constitution, it will be dangerous to do it that way--someday a Democrat will likely be in that position--then what?
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 6 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So as long as the motives are good...as long as the guy's doing something you want...that makes it okay, does it?--
    Not only nonsense, but dangerous nonsense.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 6 years, 2 months ago
    That's the thing that bothers me about Trump's "emergency announcement" plan: What happens when the shoe's on the other foot?! What if another Roosevelt gets in and wants to take over all the nation's banks, or something? Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander; we should not allow one government official to have that much power.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 6 years, 2 months ago
    The next national emergency is measles, polio-like illness, chicken pox, tetanus, etc...

    Everybody's dying.
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  • Posted by bobsprinkle 6 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You also said.... if he can can gather enough allies.
    He had enough of us to get himself elected.
    But, now the demon dems are trying to bring in more voters across the border. And YES of course they will vote.
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  • Posted by bobsprinkle 6 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As you said...." treason by the previous administration" which include the methods being used to remove the current admin.
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  • Posted by Solver 6 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Leftists “think” much bigger and much more abstract. Like, how many people would “need” to be murdered if they believed the world would end if the population remained too high? What means would they use to carry out their ends? (Don’t consider facts for this question)
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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Pelosi's revelation (as if we didn't already know it) is that it doesn'tmatter whether is a crisis or emergency, they call whatever they want an "emergency" and proceed to decree.

    The particular example of their "gun crisis" is meaningless for the National Emergencies Act because no legislation can authorize anything that is unconstitutional, such as violating the Bill of Rights. Democrats do it all the time but it isn't legal.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 6 years, 2 months ago
    There is no gun crisis outside of those area where Ds have enacted unconsitutional gun laws. The fact that its isolated to specific cities within specific states negates the crisis moniker by removing the term national emergency from the discussion.

    Pelosi is a witness hag using scare tactics to try to influence what she has no business influencing. In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out she and her cronies helped manufacture incidents over the years to advance their "gun violence" anti-gun agenda.
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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You want to "start fighting the same kind of battle the left is using now"? What wouldn't you do that is what the left does?
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  • Posted by Stormi 6 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    She likes them in other's peoples neighborhoods. They will not like her for long, they will see she is racist.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 6 years, 2 months ago
    I think nearly all Executive Orders sit on very shaky Constitutional grounds. So, yes, I am concerned and I think it a very valid and poignant question.

    The real question comes in the enforcement, however, because without that, Orders are effectively meaningless. What is the standard enforcement measure of the Executive Branch? The military. Good luck getting those guys to go around with weapons drawn confiscating others' weapons. I know too many good men and women in the armed forces and there is no way they would go along with such an order.
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  • Posted by bobsprinkle 6 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have said several times here in the gulch that I am already 71 yrs old. I will live out whatever time I have left on this earth ON MY FEET....NOT MY KNEES. Heston said it right
    FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS.........
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  • Posted by bobsprinkle 6 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    At this moment I cannot provide specific instances but....it seems I remember reading that this "emergency funding" has already been used in the past. Now, just bringing up the subject will insure that any next dummycrat Pres. (GOD FORBID) will use this process for their gain. America is in an all out battle for its soul. What about the deep state (McCabe & company) using processes to remove president Trump? At this point, ANY process should be used. Do you think the dummycrats will play nice in the future and restrict mass migration if President Trump does not use the emergency funding process. NO!!! It will be a sign of weakness that will embolden the left even more. This little Cortez turd is a classic example of what is on America's horizon if we don't start fighting the same kind of battle the left is using now.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 6 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I loved Trump's comparison of Venzuela and the U. S. It was a 'recordable' moment. Glad I had mine turned on!
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 6 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Are people intentionally delaying completion"
    I wouldn't be at all surprised if that's going on, but it's not what I'm saying. I'm saying Congress has been spending money building border barriers, which have been effective at reducing illegal crossings. We should keep doing more of the same where we see significant illegal crossings. But President Trump hyped it as a bold new idea, and Democrats go along with the hype but say they're against it.

    I believe President Trump's main ability is getting attention. He's effectively turned something that we have been doing for decades successfully into a debate over an imaginary issue.
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  • Posted by chad 6 years, 2 months ago
    The ability to use executive orders to make new rules that the population must obey has been used since the first presidency. It is contrary to the idea of a constitutional republic and arguing about it is irrelevant since any rule is enforced on the populace regardless of its validity. If Donald Trump believed in the constitution (his actions have proven that he does not) he would not use it for any reason.
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  • Posted by ewv 6 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Mark Levin said that the legislation that allows such declaration of emergencies also permits marshal law and the conscription of industry to do what the government tells it to. Has anyone looked at this law in detail?
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 6 years, 2 months ago
    I can't put into enough words why this whole idea is so asinine. So, the Democrats would NEVER have thought of doing something like this if President Trump had NOT used his emergency powers for the wall...?

    Give me a break!
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  • Posted by NealS 6 years, 2 months ago
    TERM LIMITS !!! Term Limits would tend to make people have more common sense, and less chance to change their minds based on politics. They would spend more effort representing than they do campaigning. It would benefit everyone, especially the nation as a whole.

    Nancy should be made aware that Term Limits is really a national emergency.
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  • Posted by NealS 6 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Australia hasn't walked back their gun control, at least not yet. But also they do not experience the foreign conspiracies that are trying to take over this country. Personally I know a lot of people that would rebel against Nancy if she tried. Some of them may even rebel like democrats do.
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