Have at it. We're looking at all the possibilities. You do realize that Rand's technological milieu was much less sophisticated than what we have today and proximity could be a danger.

As for myself, once I am gone, I am gone. Don't plan to come back unless things are vastly different here.

Thanks. Any participation is welcome. It's a big task even for the entire Gulch community.

You have participated significantly, freedomforall. No need to apologize.

Welcome , welcome, welcome. Your participation is highly appreciated.

Thanks for the input, esp first hand knowledge. Still not a promising outlook though.

I don't argue with that, although the reason for much of that has been precipitated by the banksters. We certainly do not want to be in a situation where nationalization is likely.

Not to minimize the efforts of others here, but in my opinion we should be looking not at remote islands unless we have unlimited funds as the cost of construction and operation in such a location is prohibitive. In addition, I think most people here (myself included) will be reluctant to relocate to (or even invest in) a wilderness, or a remote island without adequate facilities and access. Many will have families in the US that they will wish to see without an extensive, expensive, time consuming trip. An island is very attractive until the costs (monetary and other) are considered fully. For that reason, the sites I plan to look for will be closer and with much easier access to existing facilities. Of course, these places wil have their own set of challenges.
One of the advantages of Rand's Gulch was its proximity to the civilization that it was striking against.

Sorry, jbrenner, been so busy I missed this thread and now will participate.

I just spent a couple years there. I got a 3 year business visa by proving capital assets and doing a business plan. The business visas can then be converted to permanent residency pretty easily (although I did not do that.) Creation of NZ corp to operate is cheap and easy, albeit with upto ~30% income tax (but with no double taxation on dividends.) NZ is much more open to immigration than Australia. NZ recognizes thay are losing NZ population by emmigration to Australia. More Kiwis live in OZ than live in NZ, I think. The reason for this is that Australia accepts Kiwi citizens without question (except criminal records) and kiwis in Oz are covered under Australias national health plan (and vice versa.) Quite a number of immigrants have become NZ citizens and then soon after moved to Oz.
The "invest" immigration category is likely more appropriate for Gulchers:
http://www.immigration.govt.nz/migrant/s...
NZ does have a national health law and therefore they are less open to retirees who are not contributing to NZ and can not provide for themselves in the event of illness.

Argentina has too long a history of bankruptcy and corrupt government for me. There was a reason why AR chose Argentina for the d'Anconia mines.

Yes, you cannot tell which it is or exactly how promising it may be without a site visit. More specific information would be required before a site visit is indictated. That is true of all these sites, although the location of this one is more vague than the others.
I think this is closer to the location (5 min by boat from Saladero Cabal which is the point on this map.
https://maps.google.com.au/maps?client=o...

You're likely correct on the depth of the river mouth. In some ways that could be an advantage, too. It isn't all that far from the Pan American Highway.

There is a beachside hotel north on the Pacific side. Also looks to be a finca on the beach a little closer to the tip. Apparently some settling and commercial exploitation. Remoteness seems to be the operative factor.
The river mouth may be too shallow to permit large vessel operation. And there seems to be no appreciable reason to build one as there is negligible population.

Your mind is still sharper than a tack.

Do your best. Your family will be motivation for me to continue my work in Atlantis.

This looks like a natural harbor. Why hasn't it been built on already?

I watch the food intake, do most of my own cooking with fresh, have been trying to get a garden going to handle all of our veggie needs. He wants our own chickens--so do I. We moved out here to the country 4 years ago and have been gradually getting a bit more independent each year, but it is hard when he tries and tries and I have to fix all of his tryings..we'll get there, but slowly. His son already has insulin dependent diabetes..

I'm almost 67 and glucose and cholesterol are under control so I should be okay. Right? (Lessee, where did I leave those keys and did I take my meds today?)

Okay, this may be it. Not an actual island but a peninsular finger with Pacific to west and river to east. Satellite photo shows some details.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Isla+S...

I have the occasional senior moment, and I'm only 47. Alzheimer's has both a genetic and an environmental component. Some people are now comparing Alzheimer's to a Type 3 diabetes. Do what you can to minimize your diabetes risk, and you should also help to minimize your risk for developing Alzheimer's.

Let me look again. I'll find the little bugger somehow.

my hubby's grandad and his dad also had it, and his son is scared out of his mind right now, thinking he's beginning to show symptoms at age 52. He would welcome an early detection kit--go student!!!

Probably very true. sigh

This Panamanian site was one I thought was a contender.

The next generation will not have it better than we do. The debt is just too staggering, and the lack of reward structure has tipped just a little too far.