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Common Core

Posted by CarolSeer2014 10 years, 8 months ago to Education
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It's time to have the conversation about Common Core. What are your thoughts, Gulchers, about the innate evil in Common Core?


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  • Posted by teri-amborn 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's the result of ethics becoming external instead of internal.
    When what others think of you becomes your ethical standard, then who better than the government to hold the dangling carrot of approval?
    That's why rational self-interest is the apex of ethical behavior and competency is the highest form of morality. They don't require an approval rating.
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  • Posted by teri-amborn 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ayn said: "If you can change the language (the meanings of words) then you can change the culture.
    A prophetic warning.
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  • Posted by Stormi 10 years, 8 months ago
    There is no escape from Common Core, short of your state throwing it out. Any school, homeschool or private will be held to Common Core testing.
    Yes, it appears Bill Ayers was involved. Ayers and Obama were part of the Annenberg Challenge for school reform in Chicago. Of course they were promoting Marxist ideas. When Common Core was rolled out, Ayers was one of the chief presenters at the event.
    Common Core is not about education, it is about transformation, of students into sheep, and about lowing the intelligence level to close the gap between third world students and the US, to please the UN. I guess the US' being 25th was not low enough for those in power. By removing parts of history, changing the Jewish history will not be noticed. It is like "1984", history will be what they want it to be. English is already mutilated in this country, but it will get far worse. Math teaching is absurd! Environmentalism will take center stage to set the students up for UN Agenda 21, which they will accept without question. They will learn private property rights are not sustainable, as the UN says. They will become the sheep, who will learn the jobs the government wants them to do. Sadly, now they are making inroads into dumbing down college as well. So we will have people with college degrees who are clueless - like a certain leader of this country. Atlas is shrugging.
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  • Posted by H6163741 10 years, 8 months ago
    I had a long diatribe, but it's easier to just recommend that people read Return of the Primitive. It's only about 100 pages, and it pretty much says it all.
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  • Posted by strugatsky 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Marxists cannot co-exist with other views any more so than Muslims can co-exist with other religions. Both have an either us or them approach; the other side is always the enemy that must be destroyed.
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  • Posted by starguy 10 years, 8 months ago
    Common Core is cool...if you find that thinking for yourself is just too hard to do.

    Otherwise, no thanks.
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  • Posted by TheOldMan 10 years, 8 months ago
    One problem with Common Core is that it tries to tie together various subjects into projects. For example, instead of simply learning math, students must put together a project incorporating math topics with English or social studies and make a presentation to the class. While this probably would have been ok for my daughter, my sons want to learn math in math class, English in English class, and so on - one topic by one teacher. This is my biggest complaint about CC. I have never understood why k-12 could not just stay with what worked fine with me decades ago. The problem here is that people graduate with education degrees and want to show that they know better than what has worked for many decades. Rote learning of math facts (mult tables for example)? That's not fun, let's have students draw pictures of math facts so they can feel the concepts. Huh? You don't "feel" 9x7, you just know it. And you know it because you handwrote mult tables over and over again. Heck in my elem school, this was a punishment for misbehavior (I always had a few sheets stored up).

    As one commenter noted (and I have said this many times), as soon as the feds send tax dollars, they also send parasites to oversee. Why should some D.C. parasite be able to determine the school lunch menu for an elementary school in Wyoming? Eliminate the Fed Dept of Ed, a monumental failure whose rise matches the decline in student achievement. k-12 school control belongs with the school board. Yes, some boards will force Creationism over Darwin, Progressive dreams over reality-based truths, but that is up to the parents to resolve.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 8 months ago
    Common Core is rotten to the core.
    One more chain to wrap around the minds of children. It is a smiling face with a hateful intent.
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes as an intelligent parent, you would determine if the curriculum complied with your standards, and if they do not, you are free to choose another school.
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  • Posted by RonC 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We were vacationing in Cancun about 10 years ago. It was my first time out of the US. I was amazed at how rich the butter was and how vast the selection of food on the buffet. I watched them wrestle the "catch of the day" into the dock, clean it, fillet it, and prepare it for dinner. After a few days I realized in America we have the choice of the things the government allows us to have, and they tell us it's freedom. In Cancun we had the freedom to buy anything we desired. Unless you have experienced real freedom, you would not know the difference. This, I think, is how some reach the conclusion that anything is OK as long as we are kept safe. They don't see that people in prison are kept safe.
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  • Posted by Solver 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    To them, the 10th amendment be damned! They have the "guns" and are experts at using them against innocent individuals. Very convincing. If big governments had a trade, it would be intimidation and coercion. These methods are common and very often well hidden in plain site. For the illusion of their freedom to be maintained, they require state trained children. For them, the ends justify the means. Individual rights and such just get in their way.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes. Then we wouldn't have a public debate about other people's choices. The same is true for healthcare.
    If they're privately-owned, non-gov't, consumers can choose unionized vs non-union. It's all none of anyone's business.
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  • Posted by UncommonSense 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm going to comment here...though a bit late in the conversation...

    Getting parents to leave public school and DEMAND vouchers for charter schools is exactly what the communists want you to do: why?

    Charter schools aren't accountable to parents because there is no school board. Don't like what's being taught? (Yes, CC will be taught there too) Tough! Suck it plebe. Charter School's also don't have libraries. Why? Because it easier to control the subject material and keep those nosy parents from learning what's really going on behind our doors.

    THINK before you act. Remember what the communists fed the soft heads of impressionable Americans during the '50s & '60s: Don't go with the Establishment. Question authority. Seems like great advice in these days.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well of course - they were also "Communisty Organizers" so tirds of a feather flock together...
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  • Posted by RonC 10 years, 8 months ago
    Read the 10th amendment and point out to all where the Federal government fit into schools or many other things. It has been a power grab for progressives since Teddy Roosevelt.
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  • Posted by Lysander 10 years, 8 months ago
    We have been told to follow the party-line or find new jobs. I am a teacher. Had to write my own textbooks to keep from using government -approved one. The Great Experiment is my txt. I was confronted by math and English department chairs and told to shut up against CC. Many parents were told. They don't know what their kids need to know.
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 10 years, 8 months ago
    All schools privately-owned, non-unionized, and non-government regulated.
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  • Posted by edweaver 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree. Most of the people who believe in cc are products of no child left behind schooling which was the second step in federalizing the education and the dumbing down of America. This IMHO is intentional.
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