Hillary Clinton's little email fuss: Beyond 'servers in the basement'

Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 1 month ago to Technology
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The author has great technical understanding, but may have underestimated how the omission
of emails may generate fallout for Ms Slime.

"We don't yet know what machinations President Obama will try, but if he's like all of his predecessors, he is going to do his level best to keep records out of the public archive. If you'd like to read the gory details of how presidents from Reagan to George W. Bush tried to slither around records act requirements, read the "Historical Perspective" chapter of my book, "Where Have All The Emails Gone?" It's a free download. No administration is without blame."
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  • Posted by 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I think there are a lot of libertarians, but not so many Libertarians. I know a few people who call themselves libertarians just because the Dems or Reps are so obvious in their disdain for free markets, except when it gives them more power. Libertarians (big L) and Objectivists generally have in common, principles and free markets.
    These days so-called 'conservatives' in the GOP imagine they could co-exist with socialists if they would just mind their own business.
    Talk about a statement that cries out for a premise check!
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  • Posted by Zero 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    You sound a bit more Libertarian than OBJ - am I right?
    (Not that there's anything WRONG with that! - Ha!)

    I dream of some future day when OBJ's and Libertarians trade jibes and elections in some Space Hab somewhere.

    The Foreign Policy would swing wildly but it would be a free and prosperous Nation to be sure.

    And a Power to be reckoned with!
    (I had to throw that in! Ha!)
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  • Posted by livefree-NH 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    True, and in this particular case, with the use of technology changing much more rapidly than terms of office are, the comparison is even less relevant. Imagine using the excuse that you "don't use email for anything" because JFK never did.

    And speaking of technology, I wonder how many times Al Gore used email. After all, he invented it, right?
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  • Posted by 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't have any respect for any Bush and GWB gets the least respect from me (of living presidents) with the exception of the current lying sack of slime. I disagree that the "war" was justified at all, and the result is not even arguably better than what existed under Saddam.
    However, I don't doubt that Gore would have earned as much scorn as GWB.
    In short (one more time) there are no acceptable choices from the DemRep party and there have not been any in 31 years. Any vote for any candidate of the DemReps is a wasted vote.
    The "war" that is not over is the one we have to fight to regain our liberty and sovereignty from the looting elite in the Dark Center, WallSt and banksters, the UN, the CFR, Builderburgers, et al.
    Bring all the troops home immediately, disband the fatherland security jack-boot looters, and train the military to patrol the borders.
    Issue letters of marque authorizing private companies and individuals who wish to defend their private investments on foreign soil.
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  • Posted by Zero 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    In modern politics it's all about the available choices.

    I will be forever grateful Bush "won" his first election because we needed a Texan in office in time of war. (Gore would have been negotiating peace w/Bin Laden before the end of his first term.) That doesn't mean I think Bush conducted the war well.

    Like most OBJ's I support regime change through shock and awe then go back home. (I suppose I could be persuaded to leave 10's of thousands of garrisoned troops to preserve the victory - just as we did at the end of WWII. But the fighting would be over.)

    But for the current election I'd just be happy with someone who knows the current war is far from over.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree with most of what you say, plusaf. (I dont agree with anyone on everything so that's significant ;^)
    I stopped voting years ago because I concluded it would not solve anything. As for peaceful solutions that could be acted upon, I think it's either a consumer strike (painful to everyone economically, but mostly peaceful) or a voting strike where a large percentage vote against the DemRep candidates and actually elect liberty-minded outsiders .Without a large percentage participating the latter will be unsuccessful, and counter-productive because it continues to support the DemRep party's 'wasted vote' argument for those who still think voting is their only choice. A consumer strike doesn't require a large percentage participation to upset the economy enough, but opens up the leader participants to blame by the bankster/looter controlled media. There are no painless solutions to correct the mal-investment that has taken place for the past 100 years in the empire, financial banking cartel, and "military industrial complex" while siphoning off liberty from every corner of the republic.
    I use the 'good men' quote because I think we musr recognize that we 'good men' are the last hope of the republic and just talking among ourselves is as effective as doing nothing, but absorbs a lot of time that might be better spent.
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  • Posted by plusaf 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    FFA... I'd love to have a choice that's NOT the 'lesser of two weevils," as the old joke goes, but I haven't seen that kind of choice since just before I could vote... Eisenhower, I think...

    The 'good men to do nothing' homily is cute, but What To Do that Might Be Effective in turning the tide is what I don't see... (see my reply to Nick, just above...)
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  • Posted by plusaf 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Nick, everyone is pretty clear about what the problems are, and some are starting to even get close to thinking about what the root causes are FOR those problems, but for all my alleged wisdom and experience, AND all the alleged wisdom and experience of every other blogger here or anywhere else in the world, I have no idea how to stop, let alone reverse that tide.

    I'm trying to encourage people to adopt a Socratic Method or what I have called my version of Critical Thinking to try to find those root causes, but most folks fall into the trap of identifying a Problem and immediately suggesting The Obvious Solution and trying to get it implemented.

    Easy, simple, obvious and Wrong Solution.

    Good luck to us all. Yes, I expect Hillary to win, and for months, now, I've been repeating, "An electorate stupid enough to put Obama in the WH Twice is probably dumb enough to put Hillary there, too."

    Good luck to us all...
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Think twice about what you say, the "electorate" has been manipulated by a very cagey effort to seperate and keep us apart by the careful use of emotional push buttons. That way no common effort will ever be mounted against the Empire. Hillary will win even if they have to rig every voting machine, register every illegal alien, and scream all the racism, bias, anti gay, pro abortion chant they have. They will split everyone. They did it before by getting Romney as a candidate (nothing wrong with him, at least he is cognizant) but I knew "Christians" who voted for Obama because Romney was a Mormon. Go figure, Mormons aren't "christian" enough? They are already at work, look at the fear in Wisconsin over the black shooting today, and that dude had been convicted of a felony just a few months ago, and was on 3 years probation. Yet they are all praying with the parents, and crying and moaning just to try to stop the riots. DOJ is probably already there and big mouth is probably there too. Not going to stop...ever...
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Probably now in bio fuels and wants to take all the corn, he'll persuade them to annex all the corn for the peoples good.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly the problem, the dope drugged, mind numbed sheep keep doing what they are told, and screwing the rest of us in the bargain...need to qualify their survey with how many work for the government, or state or any one of a number of state funded institutions. More accurate that way...
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I think the Nazis had the same line to the jews and look what they got, history repeats itself, over and over and over...good point.
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    Posted by airfredd22 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    dear Freedomforall,

    I would love to continue this debate as we are 99% in agreement as to the problem with perhaps a slightly different outlook on the solution. However due to a complaint about y placing my real name, email address and website address in all my comments as I don't believe that one should hide behind a "username" when stating ones opinion I felt libeled and frankly insulted to be accused of some ulterior motive like spamming.

    Apparently Mr.Scott DeSapio Associate Producer, Atlas Shrugged doesn't understand that spamming is usually done for the purpose of selling something.

    Who in fact this gentleman is in the hierarchy of this website is still unknown to me as the title of "producer" is often used for financial supporters of the Atlas shrugged movies and may not at all have any authoritative association with this website.

    If he does, he hasn't bothered to respond to my request to identify himself further.

    In any event, if you wish to continue this debate, please feel free to contact me via either of the following.

    P.s. to Mr. DeSapio, if indeed you have the authority and are not a self appointed censor of this site, please remove me from any further affiliation with your site and plese cancel any further emails sent to me.

    I wish all the membership well as I have enjoyed the give and take I was able to engage in with most of my correspondence.

    Fred Speckmann


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  • Posted by 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Never accept the lesser of two evils in American politics.
    All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
    Some things are just too important to accept compromise.
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  • Posted by plusaf 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    All may end up starving...
    Aided and abetted by some wonderful 1995 Port, I had a wonderful and heated discussion with some friends this past evening about the '16 elections and the likely candidates.

    One, a Hillary-lover, could not seem to respond to any allegations of nefarious actions on H's part, nor could she list any Real Accomplishments of H when she was First Lady OR any other subsequent posts...
    But she still seemed to like Hillary.

    Then she ran through the longer list of potential contenders from the R side, and for Every One of Them, my response was something like 'no chance' or 'can't stand that one, either.'

    If you look at a variety of polls over the past few years, the US electorate has moved seriously in the direction of anti-capital punishment, pro-gay-rights (including marriage), pro-marijuana legalization and several other traditionally Liberal positions.

    Yet the allegedly mainstream Republicans resolutely and devotedly oppose any of those positions or beliefs.

    Handwriting? Can't see it.
    On What Wall? Can't see that, either.

    Hillary scares the crap out of me (I'm pro-free-market and anti-socialist), but the candidates on the other side don't seem to register above zero on any Competence Metric that impresses me.

    Is a choice of "lesser of two evils" easier or harder than a choice between a Big Negative versus a bunch of Zeroes?
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  • Posted by 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Reagan first ran 35 years ago. We aren't discussing how the party controlled candidate selection 35 years ago. Today Reagan would never be allowed out of the primaries. Today Reagan would not be elected governor in California which gave him the platform to get into the primaries.

    I agree that there are practical obstacles for pro-liberty candidates. It is difficult for voters to make a rational decision when big government propaganda is in nearly every movie, every tv program, every newspaper article.
    That includes sewing deliberate misleading reports about what a conservative is and who are conservatives, which gets back to the original point. I do know what a conservative is, and Rice is not.
    I don't think the problem lies with conservative candidates as you appear to ("the problem with most conservatives is that they can't seem to put two words together that make sense to the voting public. ") One problem is that the big government biased media purposely manipulates any rational statement by a pro-liberty candidate into a threat against rationally challenged potential voters. This is why voting hasn't solved anything in the past 50 years (with the arguable exception of Reagan for one brief shining moment) and it's why voting will not solve anything in the future if those who actually can think rationally continue to consent to serfdom by accepting candidates like Rice. Instead all the party selected candidates must be exposed as charlatans without honor and rejected from the field in disgrace.

    In every revolution, there is at least one man with a vision. Make no mistake, this is a revolution.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    First they shear off all the wool, and then eat what's left. And they never look far ahead enough to wonder what will happen when they run out of sheep.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    It's a rude awakening, but if the sheep (Republican voters) sleep they will most certainly be dinner for the wolves (GOP party leaders.)
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  • Posted by airfredd22 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Re:freedomforall,

    With all due respect to your commentary, ironically I happen to agree with much of your premise. However, I must say that you seem to infer many things that I neither implied nor stated outright.

    What I said about neocons, was that many people have different definitions of that term. I would also say that it's a word description that it's a word that is nonsensical, at least to me. It is used when people don't seem to know how to explain their own position clearly.

    I was describing only the fact that we do have a system of choosing candidates no matter how faulty we know that it is.

    We certainly do need a better system, but that system needs to be implemented at the grassroot level beginning at your own door.

    That serious changes need to be made, we are in complete agreement on.

    I do also disagree that no conservatives are allowed to run, do you remember ronald Reagan?

    the problem with most conservatives is that they can't seem to put two words together that make sense to the voting public. We must of course also keep in mind that all politicians live and die by the false promises they make and we now liver in a society where half the public pays no taxes and receives the largess of the liberal politicians at the expense of the other half. We are certainly closer to the political concept of socialism than we are to a democratic republic as we were meant to be.

    needless to say, we are in complete disagreement of whether I'm offering a rational argument or not. The fact that we disagree on some matters doesn't make my argument any less rational than yours. Rationality of an argument can only be determined by an audience and whether they are persuaded by the argument offered. i hope that is rational enough for you.

    Fred Speckmann
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  • Posted by 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    No, he (I) meant Rice, but I do agree with you that Hillary has earned her share of expletives, too.
    Continuing to give servants of the GOP benefit of the doubt (as the lesser of 2 evils) is a certain Road to Serfdom.
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